[TheForge] Wire question

Chris Kilpatrick crimsonkil at lycos.com
Thu Jun 2 14:06:11 EDT 2005


Phlip,
     I have found that welding just one ned, and not both helps my billet weld together.  It seems that some steels change size more than others when you heat them up and welding both sides makes for bowing and wrinkling (read shears and voids). Welding one side keeps them aligned, but allows them their own thermal expansion.

-Crimson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Wire question
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:02:23 -0700 (PDT)

> 
> Phlip,
> 
> I have tried rebar wire and light-guage stainless and I find that at
> welding heat they kinda disappear, and the billet kinda does that
> overstuffed hamburger thing. I have better luck mig welding the billet
> together. Even if the weld doesn't really "work" it holds it together
> nice.
> 
> I've also heard of billets being welded up in a metal box filled with
> kerosene with small vent holes for an inert environment. Sounds scary
> to me, never tried it, but apparently it works every time.
> 
> Some thoughts is all.
> 
> Justin
> --- Phlip <phlip at 99main.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
> >
> > > The cancer warning may be for cadmium plate, or possibly for some
> > other
> > metal.
> > >
> > > I'd suggest you use baling wire.  It's low-carbon steel.  Given a
> > chance,
> > it will weld right onto the billet.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > > NJ
> >
> > OK, thanks. Baling wire had been my first choice, followed by rebar
> > wire,
> > but couldn't find baling wire at the local Agway (apparently they
> > bale with
> > twine around here), and Home Despot isn't selling much in the way of
> > construction supplies any more.
> >
> > I did find a source of some stainless steel wire, temporarily, as
> > well as an
> > online source for later, if I decide that I'm really into making
> > damascus,
> > so I'm set for the moment, but I'm very curious as to exactly what's
> > on the
> > stove pipe wire, that has California all up in arms ;-)
> >
> > Saint Phlip,
> > CoD
> >
> > "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
> >  Blacksmith's credo.
> >
> >  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not
> > a
> > cat.
> >
> > Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> > And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
> >
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