[TheForge] Gas Forge Recommendation
Keporter at aol.com
Keporter at aol.com
Sun Jul 10 15:17:19 EDT 2005
In a message dated 7/9/2005 9:19:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
frosty at customcpu.com writes:
One of the other factors to consider is forge displacement. A typical 3/4"
burner is good in 300 cu/" and adequate for 350 cu/". A 3/4" jet ejector
type easily powers a 350 cu/" forge. I have my 1" burner poked into about
400 cu/" so it's no wonder it produces better than "average" heat. Cheat?
Me? <grin>
Frosty
Frosty
I think welding heat for many people involved in Damascus steel, etc. has
more to do with deliberately overheating in order to make sure that no
delaminating occurs, and of course, to speed up production time, than it has to do
with typical blacksmithing operations, including upset welding. This is fine
with me; equipment is strictly about getting results in my view. However, I
think they are missing a bet by running tunnel forges at very high heats to do
so.
I believe that what they are trying to accomplish would be better done in
ceramic chip forges. With the use of such forges thermal mass could be employed
to reduce heat loss as compared with rapid exchange of atmospheres (as is the
case with tunnel forges run at high gas pressures). Also, the ceramic chips
could absorb heat steadily from gas flames, and then release it rapidly into
the work by conduction, thus operating with the kind of efficiency boost seen
in hybrid electric cars, where a small gasoline motor feeds a series of
batteries, which quickly release larger amounts of energy when needed, rather
than running a large motor all the time.
Five years ago, my concern was getting the most performance and the most
flexibility out of small forge designs. Back then, being able to run a day's
production from one twenty pound propane tank looked like a hobbyist's dream
come true. However, looking to the future of crafts in the light of escalating
fuel prices, I believe that efficiency will become a an ever more critical
issue. These days, I'm looking at industrial cost cutting methods cut down to a
hobby scale; not that they are needed yet, but in another five years who
knows? That isn't too long a time period for designing downdraft forges, etc.
Mike P.
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