[TheForge] Arbor Press

[Justin Fellenz]

Thanks Bob...sounds like the right combinating is a big hydraulic press
for the heavy squishing and a fly press for actual forging.

Much obliged for all the info from the crew out there.

JRF

--- Bob Ehrenberger <eforge at marktwain.net> wrote:

> Justin,
> 
> You could use a hydraulic press but you don't need that much power
> and it
> would bottom out pretty fast.  A fly press would be a good fit at
> making
> collars, I've watched them used but never had a chance to use one
> myself.
> Hoffman recommended in the blacksmith journal the use of a treadle
> hammer.
> When George Dixon demoed at our conference he said that they used a
> Chambersberg in the Yellien shop for collars.  He didn't discribe
> what kind
> of tooling they used, it sounded like a job that was a punishment
> since they
> would have collar runs in the thousands.
> 
> I didn't use our hydraulic press because making the top die would
> have taken
> longer than on the arbor press.  I like the arbor press because all I
> have
> to do is weld a couple pieces of stock together to match the parts
> being
> joined and then weld a 1/2" shank on it and slide it into the head
> stock of
> the press and we are ready to go.  10-15 minutes an you have your top
> die.
> The fixture is set up so all you do is move spacers from the inside
> to the
> outside to change the width of the collar.  The most time consumming
> part is
> figuring out the exact length to cut the blanks, you want them to
> close
> tight without a gap.  If the job is paying enough you can taper the
> ends and
> overlap them, but that takes extra time.  The arbor press had plenty
> enough
> power, and also had a lot of control.
> 
> Robert Ehrenberger
> Shelbyville, Mo.
> 
> ---Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:57:26 -0800 (PST)
> From: Justin Fellenz <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Arbor Press
> 
> So, Bob, could you do this with a fast hydraulic press or a fly
> press?
> If not, what is it about an arbor press that works for this app?
> 
> Justin
> 
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