[TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto

Justin Fellenz sunironworks at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 24 08:40:19 EST 2005 

Thanks Ralph. 

J
--- Ralph Sproul <brhlbsmt at mcttelecom.com> wrote:

> Justin, I was refering to the MIG process in reference to that
> comment.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> 
> 
> > 
> > Ralph,
> > 
> > In the comment below were you still talking about copper alloys
> with
> > tig, or stainless? I've had good luck with straight argon tig on
> pure
> > copper, but I've only done light stuff--where did you notice the
> > spatter problem?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Justin
> > > 
> > >     I noticed on copper alloys like bronze and brass, you have to
> use
> > > the
> > > mix as the beads of metal wire will bounce right off the part -
> > > especially
> > > if it's got some heft/mass to it.
> > > 
> > > Ralph
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Woolley" <wjec at verizon.net>
> > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Sorry meant to say argon.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Woolley" <wjec at verizon.net>
> > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:33 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ralph,
> > > > >
> > > > > IMO the mixes are too expensive to warrant any benefit.  I've
> > > used
> > > > stainless
> > > > > exclusively for this application with excellent results.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Bill Woolley
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ralph Sproul" <brhlbsmt at mcttelecom.com>
> > > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:21 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just curious as I've never had much luck with just argon, I
> > > always
> > > used
> > > > > the
> > > > > > argon/co2 or argon/co2/helium mixes for stainless.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ralph
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Craig Schaefer" <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
> > > > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:34 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have used straight argon with stainless with TIG or
> MIG. 
> > > Have
> > > also
> > > > > > > used argon/co2.  Works out about the same when I do it.
> > > > > > > Maybe I am not very good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CraigS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ralph Sproul wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Craig,  Straight argon with Mig (which Jeff will be
> using)?
> > > or are
> > > > you
> > > > > > > >refering to Tig?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Ralph
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >From: "Craig Schaefer" <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
> > > > > > > >To: "Barking Crow" <mail at barkingcrow.com>; "Sponsored by
> > > ABANA"
> > > > > > > ><theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:04 PM
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>My thought is that unless you work really cheaply, he'd
> be
> > > better
> > > > off
> > > > > > > >>buying a new/used version of what he wants.
> > > > > > > >>You can use straight argon for stainless.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>CraigS
> > > > > > > >>Gresham, OR
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Barking Crow wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>Here's my dilemma.  A friend that I sometimes work
> with on
> > > > remodeling
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >jobs
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>wants me to turn an old 3 compartment stainless steel
> > > stand alone
> > > > > sink
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >from
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>a restaurant that we've done a bunch of carpentry work
> in,
> > > into a
> > > > two
> > > > > > > >>>compartment sink by cutting inside both walls of the
> > > middle
> > > > > > compartment,
> > > > > > > >>>discarding the middle section and welding the two end
> > > compartments
> > > > > back
> > > > > > > >>>together to make a two compartment sink with an inch
> and a
> > > half
> > > or
> > > > so
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >piece
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>in the middle.  It seems to me like an incredible
> amount
> > > of work
> > > > and
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >we
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>should just cut out side one of the walls of the
> middle
> > > compartment
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >make
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>it a two compartment sink that way.  He's worried that
> > > doing it
> > > > that
> > > > > > way
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >we
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>loose the nice curled top edge and that I should be
> able
> > > to weld
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >pieces
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>back together.  Seems to me that there will be warping
> > > problems,
> > > > and
> > > > > > set
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >up
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>problems not to mention the grinding and rewelding
> trying
> > > to make
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >joints
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>look nice, and the rust problems that will show up. 
> I'd
> > > be
> > > jusing
> > > > my
> > > > > > mig
> > > > > > > >>>with I don't remember what gas that I have for welding
> > > stainless.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>Any thoughts?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>Thanks in advance.   Jeff in Tallahassee where it hit
> 80
> > > and i
> > > was
> > > > > hot
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >>>shorts.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
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