[TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto

Ralph Sproul brhlbsmt at mcttelecom.com
Thu Feb 24 08:51:55 EST 2005 

Justin, I was refering to the MIG process in reference to that comment.

Ralph

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto


> 
> Ralph,
> 
> In the comment below were you still talking about copper alloys with
> tig, or stainless? I've had good luck with straight argon tig on pure
> copper, but I've only done light stuff--where did you notice the
> spatter problem?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Justin
> > 
> >     I noticed on copper alloys like bronze and brass, you have to use
> > the
> > mix as the beads of metal wire will bounce right off the part -
> > especially
> > if it's got some heft/mass to it.
> > 
> > Ralph
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Woolley" <wjec at verizon.net>
> > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > 
> > 
> > > Sorry meant to say argon.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Woolley" <wjec at verizon.net>
> > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ralph,
> > > >
> > > > IMO the mixes are too expensive to warrant any benefit.  I've
> > used
> > > stainless
> > > > exclusively for this application with excellent results.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bill Woolley
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ralph Sproul" <brhlbsmt at mcttelecom.com>
> > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:21 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Just curious as I've never had much luck with just argon, I
> > always
> > used
> > > > the
> > > > > argon/co2 or argon/co2/helium mixes for stainless.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ralph
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Craig Schaefer" <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
> > > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:34 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have used straight argon with stainless with TIG or MIG. 
> > Have
> > also
> > > > > > used argon/co2.  Works out about the same when I do it.
> > > > > > Maybe I am not very good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CraigS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ralph Sproul wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Craig,  Straight argon with Mig (which Jeff will be using)?
> > or are
> > > you
> > > > > > >refering to Tig?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Ralph
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Craig Schaefer" <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
> > > > > > >To: "Barking Crow" <mail at barkingcrow.com>; "Sponsored by
> > ABANA"
> > > > > > ><theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:04 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding advice needed pronto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>My thought is that unless you work really cheaply, he'd be
> > better
> > > off
> > > > > > >>buying a new/used version of what he wants.
> > > > > > >>You can use straight argon for stainless.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>CraigS
> > > > > > >>Gresham, OR
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Barking Crow wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>>Here's my dilemma.  A friend that I sometimes work with on
> > > remodeling
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >jobs
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>wants me to turn an old 3 compartment stainless steel
> > stand alone
> > > > sink
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >from
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>a restaurant that we've done a bunch of carpentry work in,
> > into a
> > > two
> > > > > > >>>compartment sink by cutting inside both walls of the
> > middle
> > > > > compartment,
> > > > > > >>>discarding the middle section and welding the two end
> > compartments
> > > > back
> > > > > > >>>together to make a two compartment sink with an inch and a
> > half
> > or
> > > so
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >piece
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>in the middle.  It seems to me like an incredible amount
> > of work
> > > and
> > > > > that
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >we
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>should just cut out side one of the walls of the middle
> > compartment
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >make
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>it a two compartment sink that way.  He's worried that
> > doing it
> > > that
> > > > > way
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >we
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>loose the nice curled top edge and that I should be able
> > to weld
> > > the
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >pieces
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>back together.  Seems to me that there will be warping
> > problems,
> > > and
> > > > > set
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >up
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>problems not to mention the grinding and rewelding trying
> > to make
> > > the
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >joints
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>look nice, and the rust problems that will show up.  I'd
> > be
> > jusing
> > > my
> > > > > mig
> > > > > > >>>with I don't remember what gas that I have for welding
> > stainless.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>Any thoughts?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>Thanks in advance.   Jeff in Tallahassee where it hit 80
> > and i
> > was
> > > > hot
> > > > > in
> > > > > > >>>shorts.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
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