[TheForge] Post Vise Craziness (utah hotels, screwjob, OT)

[Justin Fellenz]

Phlip,

Thank you, thank you. That's great news, Phlip. There is no worse
feeling than being screwed--watching the girl you're marrying get
seriously disappointed on this very important day, and being powerless
to do anything. Maybe it's a guy thing, but being able to do something
is great.

I'd appreciate that connection. I will pursue this.

Thanks for the support, folks.

JRF
--- Phlip <phlip at 99main.com> wrote:

> 
> Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
> 
> > Well, Phlip, I discovered something about this. It's ok for me to
> tell
> > this story because it's facts and my opinion or perception, clearly
> > delineated. If anyone having heard the story says, hey, I heard
> this
> > story and if it's true you really suck, that's ok too...people in
> this
> > country have a right to have and voice opinions about whatever they
> se
> > or hear. It's different if a person who heard a story represented
> it as
> > certainly true or firsthand, or told it to other people to damage
> this
> > woman's reputation...that's slander, I think (I'm no lawyer,
> either).
> > But it's not slander to talk to the person in question and make it
> > clear where the info came from and that the opinion is just that. I
> > don't think it would get me in trouble (thanks for the concern)
> because
> > I have just told a story as accurately as I can. It happened.
> > JRF
> 
> Ummm- slander is a bit more complicated than that, particularly when
> you're
> dealing with print media, which the Internet falls under. I wouldn't
> take a
> chance, with all the weird interpretations of the law that the
> Homeland
> Security crap allows.
> 
> OTOH, I've been discussing this with my roommate, Rob, and he says
> that Utah
> has some of the strictest Hotel laws  in the 50 states, since Utah
> relies so
> heavily on their tourist trade. He thinks that you could own a pretty
> fair
> percentage of the hotel, if you pushed it- supposing you wanted an
> hotel
> that had lost its license to be a hotel.
> 
> I suggest you get a Utah attorney- or you might start by contacting
> the
> local tourist bureau- they won't like that sort of thing at ALL. If
> you
> like, I can contact an attorney friend in California, who would know
> a good
> guy in Utah- there's no excuse for the woman's behavior.
> 
> Saint Phlip,
> CoD
> 
> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
>  Blacksmith's credo.
> 
>  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not
> a
> cat.
> 
> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Post Vise Craziness (utah hotels, screwjob,
> OT)
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > --- Phlip <phlip at 99main.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
> > >
> > > > Mark, that'd rock. I'll give her one more day to come around
> and
> > > then I
> > > > would be in th debt of anyone who felt like voicing opinion.
> > > >
> > > > Justin.
> > >
> > > I really reccommend against that, guys. Not only will it do no
> good,
> > > but it
> > > might get Justrin in trouble.
> > >
> > > Instead, I'd suggest calling an attorney. Breach of contract is a
> > > serious
> > > reason to sue, and if she's that squirrelly, wouldn't surprise me
> in
> > > the
> > > least if the locals would like to cause her a problem anyway.
> > >
> > > Saint Phlip,
> > > CoD
> > >
> > > "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
> > >  Blacksmith's credo.
> > >
> > >  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably
> not
> > > a
> > > cat.
> > >
> > > Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> > > And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
> > >
> > >
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