[TheForge] eucalyptus charcoal OT

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

There isn't enough biomass available to make a big difference 
really...as recognized...it's a red herring.
There is , however, a vast amount of frozen methane hydrate in 
the deep oceans near the poles and under the permafrost in some 
areas...enough to stall off the crisis for a while....but we 
won't escape it in the long run....PF

schade at acegroup.cc wrote:
> 
> On Aug 21, 2005, at 5:29 PM, David E. Smucker wrote:
> 
>>
>> One side effect of the use of Biomass fuel for power generation is the 
>> cord wood for wood stoves in thoses areas goes up in market price.
>> Dave Smucker
>>
> 
> 
> This is the part of the argument that is often left out of the "ethanol 
> will save us" discussion.
> 
> All the land that can grow corn now has corn on it. All that corn has a 
> current use, animal feed, sweeteners, corn flakes etc. If you want to 
> make enuf ethanol to make a difference you are either going to have to 
> plant more corn on marginal land or bid up the price of the existing 
> corn which means higher prices for meat etc. Farmers (and ADM) like this 
> option.
> 
> I know you can make ethanol from other crops but none are as full of 
> sugar as corn which makes the conversion more expensive than just buying 
> oil.
> 
> We be screwed.
> 
> Bob
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