[TheForge] Nazel 4b

[Justin Fellenz]

Huh. The striker adveises a "double oiling" system, whatever that is,
so it indicates they realize it's an issue. Were the problems your
friend ran into lubrication issues, or something else?

J

--- gblacksmith <gblacksmith at alamedanet.net> wrote:

> Pete:  I have witnessed the same thing with the Chinese hammers.  An 
> associate recently bought one of the 165s and had to put in his home
> grown 
> lube oil system, as the factory unit did not lube the machine
> properly. 
> Even with the new oiler, the hammer makes a lot of chirping sounds
> that 
> suggest to me issues with the oil control rings....YIKES....its a
> $10,000.00 
> hammer.  I think I might go with a Sahinler....   Do you have any
> knowledge 
> of these?  Grant
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Nazel 4b
> 
> 
> > Justin: my friend Helmut bought a striker recently and had to spend
> about 
> > 9 months on it before it sort-of worked OK..He got some support,
> but not 
> > what I'd be at all happy with....Pete F
> >
> > Justin Fellenz wrote:
> >> Ries,
> >>
> >>>Hey Justin- I only have an 88lb hammer- a nazel 4 B is something
> like
> >>>a 400lb hammer, able to work 7" square material.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yeah, it's probably a bit much. I was thinking of offering 2k, but
> even
> >> that with rigging and installation is probably not worth it. I
> admit, I
> >> do have a thing for huge old chunks of iron, but I hardly have Mr.
> >> Leno's resources. I have (had) more or less decided on an 88lb
> Striker,
> >> but then tis came along.
> >>>Thats not buying a tool- thats making a lifelong committment.
> >>
> >>
> >> Well said. I always figure tools are for life, but you can overdo
> it.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Of course, my friend George Rolstad has something like 5 hammers
> in this 
> >>>size range, including one at least twice this big. But none of
> >>>em have been running in 10 years or so, and not destined to do so
> any
> >>>time soon- George is more of a collector, with the eventual
> intention of 
> >>>getting his shop running before he dies.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah. I can see that approach, I guess. I have a friend who does
> the
> >> same thing. He has 16 or so anvils in pristine shape from 350-700
> >> pounds and doesn't own a forge. They'll never see a piece of hot
> iron
> >> again, and that's fine with him. Not really my style--I actually
> get
> >> groceries and whatnote in my unimog, same as a pickup truck. I
> have a
> >> lot of old tools, some of which are dolar for dollar not as
> efficient
> >> as a newer version, but I put up with their ideosyncracies because
> I
> >> like old iron. It's a balance.
> >>>but if your goal is actually to forge parts,
> >>
> >> you probably ought to look at smaller hammers.
> >>
> >> It is. I'm starting down the road you seem to be well along, a kid
> on
> >> the way and a desire to do metal art for a living. We'll see if I
> have
> >> the talent. So a more reasonable hammer is, well, more reasonable.
> >>
> >> Are you going to the Seattle Abana conference?
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >>
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