[TheForge] Nazel 4b

[Chris Kilpatrick]

Ries,
     The chinese hammers I am aware of, what brand are turkish?

thanks,
Chris K.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ries Niemi" <rniemi at fidalgo.net>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Nazel 4b
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:29:19 -0700

> 
> 
> Hey Justin- I only have an 88lb hammer- a nazel 4 B is something 
> like a 400lb hammer, able to work 7" square material.
> 
> Thats not buying a tool- thats making a lifelong committment. 
> Unless you have a good 200k worth of gross sales a year, I would 
> say a 4B is a bit overboard. Rigging and shipping could easily be 2 
> grand. Footings and bolts could cost another 3 to 5 grand. 
> Rebuilding the motor, or buying a new one could run a grand or two.
> In short, this is a machine for a big industrial or architectural 
> shop, and unless you have wealth of Jay Leno proportions, its 
> probably a bit much for you.
> Of course, my friend George Rolstad has something like 5 hammers in 
> this size range, including one at least twice this big. But none of 
> em have been running in 10 years or so, and not destined to do so 
> any time soon- George is more of a collector, with the eventual 
> intention of getting his shop running before he dies.
> 
> There are very nice, brand new plug and play 88lb to 165lb self 
> contained turkish and chinese hammers for 5 to 10 grand. They have 
> immediate utility, resale value, and spare parts, dies, and manuals 
> are in stock. No, they dont have the charm, history, or sheer 
> massive impressiveness of a 4B, but if your goal is actually to 
> forge parts, you probably ought to look at smaller hammers.
> 
> But on the other hand, you do drive a unimog- so you already have 
> tendancies toward less than practical machines.
> 
> ries
> 
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