[TheForge] Way OT. Stem cell cures. RANT

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

 Respectfully;  
Wrong facts.
Wrong location for this discussion.
Jeeze; I sound like Kerry! Uh oh.....
PS...I voted  in the Abana election too.....PF

Darrell wrote:

>The "Planned Parent Hood" organization is an oxymoron. They are NOT about
>planning parenthood. The founder started it with the stated purpose of
>eliminating the lower class of people. Their total focus is on abortion.
>They totally support partial birth abortion so as to be able to harvest both
>fetal stem cells and placental blood.
>I support a woman's right to choose. IF she chooses to be sexually active
>she has already made her choice.
>End rant.
>Darrell
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>From: "Mike Linn" <bamablacksmith at comcast.net>
>To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Way OT. Stem cell cures. (was: Doug Henderson )
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>>Whoa....  lets be absolutely clear...there is NO ban on stem cell
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>research...
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>>You can research to your hearts content as long as you dont use federal
>>money to do it.
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>>Same with your "family planning"  Do all of it you want, just keep tax
>>dollars out.
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>>I just wish they would expand that to the FEDERAL Dept of Education and
>>the National Endowment for the Arts among others...
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>>I've read the US constitution several times and I cant find anything about
>>any of these topics in there...
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>>just my opinion...
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>>mike
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>>At 07:27 AM 10/1/2004, you wrote:
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>>>Yes, that is correct.  But this ban applies to ALL federal funding of
>>>stem cell research.
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>>>The government has made it very clear that it will take such bans to
>>>the nth degree.  For example, our archconservative administration
>>>opposes family planning to such a degree that we won't support efforts
>>>to control population growth, and the related problems of infant
>>>mortality, female pregnancy-related mortality, overpopulation,
>>>malnutrition, inadequate education, etc.
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>>>Hence, and INSTITUTION that partakes in stem cell research can well
>>>expect to be cut off from all federal funding.  Period. Any institution,
>>>like NIH, that is a creature of government cannot even consider such
>>>funding.
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>>>More information can be found at http://www.plannedparenthood.org/, for
>>>those interested.
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>>>Bruce
>>>NJ
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>>>>>>northpt at blarg.net 9/30/2004 5:08:31 PM >>>
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>>>On 30 Sep 2004 at 9:18, Bruce Freeman wrote:
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>>>snip.....
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>>>>Unfortunately, human stem cell lines come from aborted fetuses.  You
>>>>know the rest of the story.  The arch conservatives in office banned
>>>>stem cell research, and that was the end of the story.
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>>>>This is one of several reasons I'll be voting for Kerry this year.
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>>>>Bruce
>>>>NJ
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>>>        The above is incorrect. There is no ban stem cell research. Only
>>>on federal
>>>funding of research beyound the existing approved lines.
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>>>        From http://slate.msn.com/id/2104983/
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>>>        ....." But no such ban exists. Embryonic stem-cell research is
>>>unrestricted in
>>>the private sector. State and local governments can fund it as they
>>>wish. The federal
>>>government spent nearly $200 million on adult stem-cell research last
>>>year and
>>>nearly $25 million on research involving the roughly 20 approved
>>>embryonic lines. As
>>>today's Washington Post observes, what Bush actually did was "to allow,
>>>for the first
>>>time, the use of federal funds" for embryonic stem-cell research."
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