[TheForge] Roger Duncan

[Andy Vida]

xlch58@swbell.net wrote:

> I have seen the same phenomenon with my fathers family.  Fifteen
> siblings, with a couple dying of cancer in their 40's the rest all
> living into their nineties.  I think the advantage some of these people
> had was growing up in the country and having their lungs develop without
> being bombarded from birth with toxins, so they had better organs to
> start with.  I.E it worked for them but isn't likely to work for you.

	This I can believe.  They also lived a far more physical life
	and IMO their diets were far better.  The doofus diet experts
	notwithstanding, I think the diets that send them into grandmal
	seizures were actually very healthy.  Grandma didn't eat any of
	that processed crap.  I remember summers in Europe, every Wed.
	the diary lady came by, a somewhat overweight hobbled woman, 
	perhaps in her 60s.  She always had absolutely fresh cottage
	cheese and sour cream.  I have to confess that I miss these
	things.  They taste SO different from anything you will ever
	get from a US dairy.  No processing other than the old fashioned
	methods for producing the various items.  I suspect that much
	of the lousy health of people these days can be directly 
	attributed to the extremely poor quality of the food. It LOOKS
	good and, if you're used to it, tastes good, but it doesn't
	necessarily follow that it is nutritionally sound, and much of
	it has been clearly demonstrated to be of less than zero value.

	But I think being physically active is also important.  Look at
	Marshall.  Early 50s, skinny as a rail, eats all manner of
	absolute CRAP (Little Debbie maintains stock value based on his
	sales) and yet he's strong as hell, trim, in good shape and
	seems to be in excellent health.  He is a farmer and is always 
	working at significantly physical things.  I think this is
	very different from the yuppie that does his two hours of working
	out four days or even seven days a week.  I can't prove it, but
	I suspect it to be the case.
> 

> The problem is we are not a nation of adults, we are a nation of
> adolocents who make big talk about how we are capable of running our
> lives,

	Well said.  I absolutely agree with you.  I look at the ways
	in which my grandparents' generation ran their lives.  No 
	comparison can be made with our generation, who are generally
	very childish.

> but when put to the test repeatedly look for someone to blame and
> make it all right for us. 

	this is surely common enough to be non-arguable.

> Eat yourself into a spot where you can't get
> out of bed, you are disabled and collect money,

	But... but... butt...  it's not thier fault.  Mommy didn't
	potty train Johnny properly or rejected him.  It's all that
	bitch's fault...  or dad's... sis, bro... aunt touched his
	wee wee...  anyone but him.  Sheesh Charles, don't you
	know ANYTHING?

> Smoke yourself to death and then sue the tobacco companies. 

	That's the one that really gets me.  Those guys were up
	to no good, that is for certain, especially in their
	targeting campaigns for children, but I don't believe 
	there is an adult on the planet that cannot pretty well
	figure that the activity is dangerous.  Anyone that can't
	isn't intelligent enough to be loose on the streets and
	should be rounded up and take to some sort of group home
	to be cared for.

> Stand in line at the local hardware store and listen
> to people bitch about outsourcing and jobs going over seas while the
> cashier rings up their collection of chinese tools that they picked
> instead of the "over priced" American ones. 

	What's that old saying about money talking and something
	walking?

> Of course we want everyone
> else to buy american, just not us.   And these are people that make
> three, four and five times the national average, and think they are
> being put upon.   So we are not a nation of adults, we are a nation of
> adolescents.

	I was going to say idiot children.