[TheForge] Anvil rework, Was reducing fuel costs
K Donahoe
flyinpig at go-concepts.com
Sat Jul 31 10:34:14 EDT 2004
Jim,
I've never heated an anvil in a gas forge, but I've burned up a fair share
of stock in 'em.
Kevin
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-It took a fair bit of digging, but I found the thread from TheForge.
-Here it is, in most of it's glory.
-
-Steve Smith
-
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-
-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:41:36 -0500
-From: Jim McCarty <jimmac at socketis.net>
-Subject: Re: Anvil Meltdown
-
-
-Clay Spencer wrote:
- >=20
- > At 11:55 PM 9/23/96, Bill Roberts wrote:
- > >Clay Spencer wrote:
- > >>
- > >> Hey BAMmers,
- > >> Is it true that about 10 lbs. of the anvil you were going to
-replate melted
- > >> and ran down to the bottom of the forge?
- > >> Hank and Todd were in California, so who would do something like
-that without their help?
- > >> Clay
- > >
- > >Clay-
- > >What are you stirrin' up? Was this one of those " I
-thought YOU were
- > >watchin' the fire" things?
- > >
- > >Bill
- >
- > That's what I'm trying to find out. I hear that about 10
-lbs. of anvil
-was
- > melted in a gas forge while they were preheating it to weld
-a plate on.
- > They thought it would take several hours to preheat and
-apparently didn't
- > check soon enough. Or they were into the BAMBOOZLE beer that Todd
-bottled a
- > few years ago.
- > I reckon McCarty's fingers are broke and he can't type anymore.
- > Clay
-
-
-Now there you go with the negative vibes...everyone knows you can't
-melt an anvil in a gas forge. Now if you were to take the same
-preheated anvil outside, for example, and maybe dig a trench in the
-ground, and maybe put a piece of pipe in the ground and atttach it to
-one of those Centaur blowers that don't work very well with rheostats,
-and then just say for example that you were to put three bags of coal
-over the buried pipe and light it and perhaps get a real hot fire
-going by running the blower full blast, and if you were to (for
-example) put your anvil upside down in the fire and maybe settle back
-for some good stories and some good Free State brown lager beer
-supplied by one Walt Hull from Lawrence Kansas (that's really good
-beer, would recommmend visiting that place if you ever get to
-Lawrence. Did you know that a bunch of Missourians once burned
-Lawrence to the ground in the Civil War?) What were we talking about?
-Oh yeah, Clay wanted to know if in theory you could melt an anvil.
-What a funny thought, but then that's Clay. Always thinking of
-things...so then say you got to drinking Free State beer and just
-letting that big anvil simmer, and say you had someone really
-knowledgeable like Jerry Hoffmann and Tom Clark tending the fire, and
-say that this anvil had a little bit of the top plate still in place
-so you know that if you get it too hot it will start sending showers
-of sparks up into the air, WOULDN'T IT? Supposing all this happened
-and in addition it was time for the autumnal equinox when everyone in
-the world enjoys equal amounts of daylight and darkness. Did you know
-that their is going to be a lunar eclipse soon? You should all try to
-stay up late and see that. Anyway, yes, I guess it would be possible
-at least in theory to burn the middle out of an anvil but certainly
-not in a gas forge like John Murray has and you would probably burn
-much more than 10 pounds out of the middle (more like 50, at least in
-theory). If anyone would like their anvil repaired by BAM's excellent
-team of strikers who have been practicing but have never had the need
-to actually weld a plate on an anvil (not having one available at
-suitable temperature and with enough metal left amidships) then let us
-know and we will do the job for you.
-
-No warranty.
---
-Jim McCarty
-Father Helias Forge
-Taos, MO
-Editor Rural Missouri Magazine
-Newsletter editor, Blacksmiths Association of Missouri
-
-Foolish consistencies are the hobgoblins of little minds
-also see:
-http://home.gvi.net/~dhoopes/canvil.html
-
-
-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 00:04:07 -0400
-From: clay at grove.net (Clay Spencer)
-Subject: Re: Anvil Meltdown
-
-
-At 5:21 AM 9/25/96, brnzcast at sprynet.com wrote:
- >>>I don't know which was more spectacular, the burning of an
-anvil, or
-the look
- >on Tom Clarks face.<<
- >
- >Sounds as good as the acetylene balloons last year.
- >
- >--
- >Winston W. Harness
-
-Or the time Tom instantly painted the inside of his shop black about 10
-minutes after he set the spray paint can near the gas forge
-one cold day to
-warm it up. Glad I wasn't there to witness it.
-Clay
-
-
-Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
-> The anvil showed up at a couple meetings right after the
-repair. I haven't
-> seen it for several years. I don't think that it was Tom's
-anvil, he was
-> just in charge of fixing it. It would have been real cool
-if things hadn't
-> gone wrong and they really did forge weld a new face on an
-old anvil. The
-> problem they had was the forge wasn't big enough to bring
-that much steel up
-> to welding heat. So they put together a make shift forge by
-digging a pit
-> and burying a blow pipe for the air. It was just too hard
-to monitor the
-> temp.
->
-> With a big enough forge and equipment to handle a hot anvil
-it should be
-> possible. Any takers?
->
-> Robert Ehrenberger
-> Shelbyville, Mo.
->
->
->>I was wondering how long it would take for someone to catch
-the mistake.
->
-> It
->
->>would have been nice to let another group carry the shame
-for a while.
->
->
-> Jeez Louise... how embarrassing... I never even noticed. DUH.
->
-> I'll be down here in the basement eating worms, if anyone needs me.
->
->>I'll never forget to look on Tom Clark's face when they
-pulled the anvil
->
-> off
->
->>the fire and a third of the face was gone. His only comment
-was that we
->>might have to dress it up a little before welding the plate on.
->
->
-> I'd have paid money to see that.
->
-> What ever happened to that anvil? I'd be tempted to trade one of
-> my good ones for that one.
->
->
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