[TheForge] O/T Survivor

Mon Jan 5 18:53:01 2004

Our 'bobbies' don't routinely carry firearms, and don't want to (on the
whole).

The recent UK 'ban' on guns was actually a (government knee-jerk?) ban on
legally held hand guns - and little of the gun crime that is on the increase
here is committed with legally held guns anyway!

It's probably mostly down to an increase in gang culture, increased access
to weapons from the darker parts of Eastern Europe, etc etc.

The country was a bit shocked recently when a traffic policeman was killed
in Leeds by a man he'd just arrested in a stolen car - luckily it's still
quite rare. The police (not 'bobbies'!) that came to have a look around
Leeds tha day after were certainly armed!

We have checkpoints in London occasionally manned by armed police - the last
time I was stopped at one was at the height of the IRA campaign that
included the Canary Wharf bombing. It's still unusual enough to make the law
abiding amongst us more than a little nervous.

Later,

Rich.

Richard Maynard
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ralph E Douglass
> Sent: 05 January 2004 23:34
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] O/T Survivor
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> Bruce Freeman wrote:
> >
> > Darrell,
> >
> > You are entitled to your opinion concerning gun ownership.  However,
> > please don't give out false statistical "proof".  If you have
> > documentation to back the claim you make below, please cite it.  I have
> > reason to believe it is simply not true.  It is a claim that has been
> > circulating for some time now on the web, along with counterclaims.
> >
> > Bruce
> > NJ
>
> Bruce,
> Just out of curiosity, why is it you do not believe this? At least any
> more so than 'stats' showing the opposite?
>
> If you look at the violent crime rates in Aust and England you will see
> that they did go up. DO not know if it was due to the gun confiscation
> laws or if it is due to criminals just getting more violent. Also why is
> it that in some locations in Britain that the 'bobbies' are now carrying
> firearms?
>
> Ralph
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