"Mark A. Pesetsky" wrote: > Yea, that is what I am saying. Just trying to work with what I have. If I > have to buy a solid round that is 36-48" tall/that is what is > best....Well.....I may have to. You should be able to find such stuff a scrap yards. You may have to exercise a little patience, but it can be had. There's a lot of that stuff floating around, especially back in NJ.