[TheForge] Building a propane forge

[Craig Schaefer]

This has got to stop!  A 'vaporized liquid' IS A GAS!
That's how it works.
solid - liquid - gas - plasma - and something Andy sees in black holes.


CraigS




John Husvar wrote:

> Keporter@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Before anyone asks, the qualification "or nearly complete" is not a back door
> > for excuse making. These burners are going to be hand built, not turned out
> > in a factory. Furthermore, unless someone wants to stand around doing nothing
> > more than readjusting the burner, it will vary slightly in performance from
> > minuet to minuet. With acknowledgment of these two limiting factors, complete
>
> Boy, talk about dancing around the subject! "Minuet to minuet?" Sorry,
> couldn't resist! I have this vision of Colonial blacksmiths in
> waistcoats and tri-corner hats and their ladies in crinolines timing
> their heats by the dance. LOL!
>
> Mikey is correct, BTW. If I remember my gas supplier's explanation
> correctly, LPG acts more like a vaporized liquid than a true gas. The
> vapor "droplet" size varies with temperature, velocity of flow,
> pressure, and turbulence. "Droplet" really implies something much larger
> than propane vapor particles. It doesn't generally break down into
> molecules like a boiling liquid does, at least not in something that
> uses as much fuel as quickly as a forge burner. Think of it as a very,
> very, very fine fog as opposed to steam.
>
> Best example is a fuel-air bomb: You get this kind of light haze, over a
> large area, that suddenly all burns at once. BOOM! (Why you shouldn't
> let your burners run unlit.:)
>
> Mikey, does propane ever actually reach a molecular gaseous state, at
> higher temperatures maybe?
>
> Somebody with more knowledge than I will have to step up and give a
> better explanation, but that's how I visualize it.
>
> BTW again -- I was using MIG contact tips for orifices several years
> ago. Dave Wilson used to have a little article I wrote on building my
> forge on his site. I recently bored mine from .045 to .062 and added a
> blower since I no longer take that forge on the road.
>
> > means complete.
> >
> > Again, congratulations on being the first challenger, and please don't
> > hesitate to call me to account again. When caught in a mistake I will 'fess right up
> > to it. More importantly, don't hesitate to try and make a better burner. That
> > is called progress :o)
> > Mikey
> >
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