[TheForge] superquench questions

Steve Smith sos at alum.mit.edu
Tue Dec 28 09:16:32 EST 2004


Just reporting what I've seen; no testing here.

Simple Green sounded a bit strange to me. Jet Dry on the other hand, 
sounds like a wetting agent, which may be the ticket.

I've also seen Amway LOC suggested, but it has the same availability 
problems as Basic I.

Steve

Bruce Freeman wrote:
> As far as I can tell, none of those three products even remotely
> resembles Basic I. 
> 
> A better bet might be a photographic wetting agent, as has been
> suggested by some.
> 
> I don't have this as a fact, but it appears that Basic H may be Basic I
> diluted 1:1 with water.  
> 
> However, in the USA, Basic I is easily available through distributors. 
> Substitutions are not really necessary.
> 
> Bruce
> NJ
> 
> 
>>>>sos at alum.mit.edu 12/27/2004 9:20:30 PM >>>
> 
> Jet Dry, Simple Green, and Calgon are mentioned various places on the 
> web as substitutes for Basic I. I haven't tried it. You can read
> several 
> opinions here:
> http://www.reil1.net/theforge1.html 
> where you can also find the recipie. Search (control F on Windows) for
> 
> superquench.
> 
> If you are using mild steel, these days it isn't so mild. Keep an eye
> on 
> your dies to make sure they don't crack (good idea whether you use 
> superquench or not).
> 
> Welding beads may have higher carbon than the surrounding steel, 
> possibly too high for superquench (it may crack or be too brittle.
> 
> Not that I've used much superquench in the past 8 years or so, no 
> expertise here.
> 
> Steve
> 
> Schade wrote:
> 
>>I bought a set of the dovetail die adaptors for my LG 25 from Sid. I
> 
> 
>>have some chunks of 2"x3" to make a few sets of dies.
>>
>>Do any of you use "superquench" on hammer dies?
>>
>>What is the current recipe?
>>
>>Is there somewhere online to get the Shaklee stuff?
>>
>>Has anyone ever Rockwelled after superquenching?
>>
>>Should I weld the die together before superquenching?
>>
>>Is a 5 gallon bucket of SQ big enuf to quench hammer dies?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Bob
>>
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