[TheForge] armour was (Re: OT rant (armor))
terry l. ridder
terrylr at blauedonau.com
Tue Dec 14 12:59:28 EST 2004
hello;
having worked for various governmental agencies and departments in the
past i have the following questions and comments.
what type to armour is being discussed?
a. mild steel plate.
b. ballastic plate.
c. depleted uranium plate.
d. other
what is being armoured?
a. engine compartment.
b. passenger compartment.
c. doors and sides of the vehicle.
d. doors, sides, and roof of the vehicle.
e. fuel tank(s).
f. the floor of the vehicle.
0. if the floor of the vehicle would the brake, clutch, and gas
pedals need extensions.
a. who provides the extensions if needed.
who would provide the necessary security of the required blueprints for
the military vehicles and possible support vehicles for which armour is
to be produced?
who would calculate the maximum weight of the armour produced for a
particular vehicle?
a. how will the weight of the armour alter the center-of-gravity of
the vehicle being armoured.
b. how will the additional weight of the armour effect the drive
train of the vehicle being armoured.
c. if the vehicle was not originally designed to be armoured or to
be used in the battlefield, what other modifications are required
and who would perform those modifications.
who would provide the necessary security of the various distributed
computer systems of the loose affiliations of shops?
who would do the quality acceptance of the base materials?
who would do the quality inspections of the armour produced?
who would do the painting of the armour produced?
who would perform the sample testing of the armour produced?
where would the sample testing of the armour produced take place?
who would supply the weapons used for sample testing of the armour
produced?
which weapons types would be used for sample testing of the armour
produced?
a. small arms fire.
b. rocket propelled grenade.
c. improvised explosive devices.
d. claymore mines.
e. land mines.
f. mortar fire.
g. car bombs.
0. what size car bombs.
who would provide the necessary security of the above weapons?
who would do battlefield field damage inspections and assessments?
who would manage the inventory tracking systems?
a. which base materials went to which shop?
b. which base materials were used to produce a particular piece of
armour.
b. which shop produced a particular piece of armour?
c. which military unit received a particular piece of armour?
comments;
metal armour is only part of the problem.
there is a need for ballistic glass.
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Justin Fellenz wrote:
justin>
justin> One mouth needs a lot of hands, not the other way around. Thanks Chris.
justin> Basically, my thinking is that if I can say to someone, somewhere
justin> (finding that person'll take some doing, but...) that there exists a
justin> group of skilled smiths across the country who are willing and able to
justin> build what needs to be built--a production force that can look to the
justin> government like "an entity"--someone might see a need. As a small group
justin> we can be more nimble and responsive than the enormous bureaucracies
justin> that lie at the heart (if you'll forgive the inaccurate metaphor) of
justin> huge companies. Productwise, I just kinds stole Reis's idea of making
justin> armor for trucks. The shapes are pretty simple, a bend here and there,
justin> a weld or two, a few holes for bolts. I'm thinking an armor kit that
justin> you can box up and ship over to fit on a given truck. We'd need a truck
justin> of a given type to make a blueprint that could be distributed to the
justin> group. COuld be that certain shops have certain abilities and not
justin> others--one with the material handling equipment to manage big pieces,
justin> one with machining ability, one with an ironworker, one with TIG for
justin> aluminum, maybe. Maybe everybody does whole pieces, or some of both.
justin> But thats getting WAY ahead of where we are. Mostly, if a few of you
justin> actually have the time and interest and facilities to participate, then
justin> it's something I can try to shop. No point shaking the tree if there's
justin> nothing behind the plan.
justin>
justin> JRF
justin>
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