[TheForge] OT rant (armor)

Chris Kilpatrick crimsonkil at lycos.com
Tue Dec 14 11:08:44 EST 2004


Justin,
     I'll lend a hand, but I have not the skills to be the head or mouth.

-Chris K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT rant (armor)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:04:22 -0800 (PST)

> 
> You know, guys and gals...
> 
> (this is semi-serious)
> 
> Reis got me thinking, and Frosty got me thinking bigger. It seems like
> there are a few of us on this list who are either underemployed, with
> skills but no shop, or who run their own shops and maybe are looking
> for some work. Just talking off the cuff, it occurred to me that we
> could sort of band together in a loose coalition of sorts and make
> armor for the boys across the pond. Like Reis said, many of us have the
> equipment to do it, and there are hands that could help. There needs to
> be a head to the beast, some point of contact with the government, ok,
> that's not too tough, I live here in the navel of the political
> universe (ugh) and have a little time and like doing that sort of
> thing. Or maybe someone else is more qualified and connected--if so,
> please step forward. I am a little bit familiar with small business
> regs for contracting and tricks like 8a (woman/minority-owned
> businesses). The problems as I see it are 1. figuring out a way to
> actually get product to the people who need it, which means finding the
> decision makers here in town; 2. getting everone organized and working
> out who does what and how everyone gets paid; and 3., a lesser problem,
> figuring out what to make and developing standard templates.
> 
> It's real possible that all these are, singly or together,
> insurmountable problems. But I am curious, just kinda woodshedding, if
> any of you would be interest in such a venture. All of us together are
> still only going to be able to produce a pretty small amount of
> stuff--there's no replacement for a huge foundry. But if the guys are
> scrounging scrap piles, maybe it would help. And there is a place for
> "small business" in government contracting, by law. It might generate
> some work in the good ol US of A, put some government money in the
> hands of us citizen-types, and it would allow us to actually *do*
> something for our guys instead of just bitching or *saying* "I support
> our troops".
> 
> I dunno. Maybe it's too big to organize, maybe there's no point in it.
> There's a good chance there's no real way into the government, the war
> will be over before the first piece of iron ships. If everyone's busy
> or y'all think I'm nuts, then there's no product. But I think we all
> agree that work is good, money is better, and whatever you think of the
> war our troops deserve everything we can do for them. Seems like
> everyone wins. Thought it might be worth a try, anyway.
> 
> If any or enough of y'all are at all interested I can go sniffing
> around here and see if I can actually get connected to the right
> people.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> JRF
> 
> --- Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Justin Fellenz wrote:
> > > Always thinkin big, Frosty. Gotta respect that.
> > > > I'm a gummint contractor...it's our job to generate bloated prose
> > for
> > > money and then go to meetings about it. Oh, and occasionally we
> > build a
> > > thing or two, but mostly it's bad prose and meetings.
> > > > Maybe we can get haliburton to build it. Put us all to work for the
> > > next 5 years. Please post salary requirements offlist. New tools
> > for
> > > everyone!
> >
> > 	It would serve them right, given they stole all the rest of the
> > jobs. :)
> >
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