[TheForge] BS within BS (YAK)

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A. Vida wrote:

> Aaron Silver wrote:
>
> > I think that what people are confusing is intelligence and "culture", or
> > "genteel-ness" (if that's even a word. I would more readily agree with the
> > statement that swearing shows a lack of culture or refinement rather than
> > intelligence.
>
>         Not that this has anything to do with smithing, and I know I
>         will probably regret allowing myself to get sucked into it,
>         I will address this point.  Your statement is equally
>         faulty in linking swearing with culture and/or refinement.
>         The definitions of the terms predicate your assertion.  Someone
>         from a heavy swearing culture (such as the ghetto where
>         everything is "shit" and everyone is a "nigger" or "motherfucker")
>         might hold your statements in serious question.  I mean this
>         very seriously.  I could point you to people in places such as
>         the Bronx where the local top dog swears like a trucker from the
>         time he crawls from his crack-stupor to the time he passes out
>         once again, yet is regarded as "bad" (meaning "good" or "cool).
>         If you were to assert to anyone in his version of culture that
>         he was unrefined or otherwise uncouth, they may look at you as
>         just another crazy country bumpkin (you know, like from Brooklyn
>         or something).  They might be quick to point out the car he
>         drives, the clothing he wears, his money... you know, all the
>         things that constitute "class" ;).  Then they'd turn the argument
>         against you, pointing out your filthy clothing, that freak-0
>         looking apron you wear, your odor, and the fact that you carry
>         a hammer around with you would definitely brand you as some
>         crazy, lump-headed cracker with no culture or refinement, no
>         matter how well you thought you spoke.
>
>         Ja, this is seriously so.  In such cultures, within which I lived
>         for many years, mothers call their children "motherfucker" and
>         tell their infants to "shut the fuck up".  This is normal to these
>         people and if anyone judgign them based upon this would get an
>         earful (and maybe a buttfull of buckshot).
>
> > Unfortunately too many automatically link refinement and
> > intelligence. How many times have we seen stereotypes of the high society
> > dismissing the blue collared worker simply because their hands are dirty,
> > rather than determining if there might be some intelligence underneath that
> > soot?
>
>         An equally mistaken practice.  And dangerous, to boot.
> >
> > While the original subject of this thread has been beaten to death
> > ad-nauseam, I would like to make the following observations:
> >
> > 1) I expect that this forum will sometimes contain objectionable content.
>
>         But objectionable to whom?  I don't care if someone swears.
>         I may not particularly care for some ultra-neo-liberal
>         political rant.  OK, then I jhit my "delete" key.  Big deal.
>         You can't please everyone and not everyone will please you.
>         My opinion (worth what it cost) is we all might benefit from
>         getting over ourselves a bit and simply let the stuff that
>         doesn't interest us pass us by.  It's really a pretty easy
>         thing to do.  We've visited this so many times in the past.
>         I'd think people would be bored of it by now.  Guess I'm wrong.
>
> > At a minimum I would rate the content at PG-13, simply because there might
> > be some mild swearing. Anyone that can't handle that, I would suggest
> > un-subscribe or simply lurk, since I don't think we wish to re-tread this
> > path again.
>
>         Personally, I think this is ridiculous.  I can agree with
>         adding YAK or OT to a subject line, as I have done here,
>         but I don't think we should become sensors and raters
>         beyond that.  Where does it stop?  The next time a
>         complaint it made, what, add MORE information to the header,
>         and then more again when another complaint is registered?
>         Pretty soon the headers will be larger than the messages and
>         we will all have to take college courses in properly
>         structuring mail headers... congress will pass laws... oh dear.
>
>         It  appears some folks have too thin a skin, and to be honest,
>         I think that's a big problem with US culture, so busily trying
>         not to upset anyone's delicate sensitivities.  Well, what about
>         YOUR sensitivities?  I don't see the squeams of the nation
>         doing a hat dance around YOUR feelings (or mine).  They spare
>         no opportunity to tell you that you're unintelligent or uncouth
>         or whatever vulgar insult, however civilly put they may be, they
>         choose to hurl at you as they point out the mortal wounds you have
>         inflicted upon them by saying "shit".  Where's the quid pro quo
>         (to look at it as a mercenary)?
>
>         Live and let live.
> >
> > 2) I find that this forum is a place to learn about Blacksmithing and Life.
> > Rarely do I have the luxury of interacting with people from all around the
> > country (or even the world) discussing everything from banging metal to how
> > even primates seem to exhibit the human trait of swearing, to whether a
> > clean garage is due to gender or upbringing.
>
>         Hear hear. (here here?)
> >
> > Aaron
>
>         Oh DAMN... the dog just farted...  jeeeeeez louise.
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