[TheForge] Welding 5160

Wed Aug 27 08:05:59 2003

        Ed,  I'm interested in more alloy Tig rods, etc.  What is that
Weldmold 880 all about? is it a die repairing weld alloy?  Chrome or carbon?

Ralph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed F" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding 5160


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ralph Sproul" <[email protected]>
>
> > but, when he heard I was making hand held tooling for blacksmithing, he
> just
> > laughed and said......it will be just fine to heat it to red(forging it
to
> > shape) and let it air cool on it's own.  You'll have to grind to shape
> after
>
> I found that H13 needs to get to a kind of glowing orange to harden.  The
> Uddeholm tech rep. thought I should temper the H13 after the cooling.
> Uddeholm outlines that procedure in their tech. info.  It involves holding
> it at something like 800 deg.  I referenced a book on it and it said it
was
> optional.  I haven't heard of any smiths doing it so I guess it's ok to
skip
> it...  I did have a hot cutter (not tempered)splinter off on the edges of
> struck end though.
>
>
> >         In reguards to welding power hammer tools, this is always what
> I've
> > done is preheat, then Tig weld or Mig weld handles to all the steels
used
> > with a carbon steel wire.
> >         I found some of my air hardened tools to break with the carbon
> wire
> > (if the piece had been forged and cooled before I welded the handles
on).
> > So I've tried using a SS wire(309) to fasten handles to hardened tools
> (with
> > the preheat of course).  These are just my findings and I was asking how
> > others have made out.
>
> I preheat to dull red then weld it with a rod called Weldmold 880.  It
comes
> in stick or tig filler.  I use the torch to bring the tool to that bright
> orange then stick it in a bucket of vermiculite.  (Violating the 1 hr/in
> rule.)  With H13 & S7 it's come out hard and the weld hasn't broken on
any.
> Well, except on the hot cutter mentioned above where I tried to weld on
the
> brittle end of a splintered tool to make a better (safer) striking
surface.
> Eventually the button of weld broke off.
>
> Ed
>
>
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