[TheForge] old arc rods, election

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

Dan:
So you were the guy bidding against me..sneaky how you hid those nickle 
rods under the rusty ones.
I've used a lot of rehydrogenated rod too. Mostly, it works fine.
Ralph;
My understanding is ( never been to welding school or nuttin) that the 
hydrogen from the water causes underbead cracking where the root of the 
weld  develops a lengthwise planar crack that you can't see. Ive seen 
this, when taking apart welds ,a few times, mostly on alloy steel using 
old rods. I think it gets to be more of a problem as the strength of the 
rod rises. Once damp, it binds as " chemical water" which has to get  
pretty hot to leave.
Dampened low hydrogen rod is not what I'd use on something overhead, so 
to speak.
On the other hand, 6011 will plow through rust and paint, snow, sleet or 
hail and all kindsashit undaunted...I have literally pulled sticks of 
6011 out of a bucket half full of water, shook them off and ran 
them..ugly practice. It was ok, they'd only been in there a week or so.

Of note;........In a recent email to the forge i typed in the word"hot" 
in caps..., talking about steel....the message was spam-bounced 
.         Pete

dann wrote:

> Once I bought about  a half ton of wet welding rod, at a two day 
> auction where everything was stacked outside in the rain.   The 
> factory sealed nickle rod (sealed case)  that I found  was worth the 
> value that was paid for the whole pile.    There were sealed.. 
> un-opened 50 pound canisters of  unknown to me rod that made me smile 
> as well.
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> High hydrogen, low hydrogen...????  hmmm   ...  if  the flux coating 
> still  looks good, and you crack the flux off some previously "wet"  
> sample rod that  you  have already baked / dried the  ambient moisture 
> off, and the bare rod  is still  clean ( no rust/ oxidation )  where 
> is the harm in using  the rod.  It works like new rod for me.
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> However if the rod  got so wet that the flux decomposed, or the  core 
> metal of the rod  appears rusted upon drying.  Maybe that is a good 
> time to see if you can twist a dozen rod together and cable weld them 
> in the forge.  There must be some artsy thing to do with  waste rod...
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> Election:   Simply put  your mark(s) on the ABANA ballot and mail it.  
> If I remember correctly, about 10% voted last year.  If so, that  is  
> sad.
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> Dann Johnson
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