hello; are you then saying that the candle is supported only by the ends of the twelve spirals? On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, mike wolfe wrote: mike> First: mike> The 1/8 x 3 1/8 circle is the the bottom of the candle mike> stand and acts as a drip pan. mike> mike> Second: <major snip> mike> Mike Wolfe -- Terry L. Ridder ><>