"that song and dance killed her." That's why I mostly like this forum. Great info, Jerry. DanA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Frost" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 2:29 PM Subject: [TheForge] WAS: BLACKSMITHING CHAT WITH OLD FRIENDS - Bridge <big snip>