[TheForge] Mastermyr II List of Items Update 2

Fri Jun 21 14:37:00 2002

Phlip,

1.  The frame was made from 4 pieces of  2" x 1/4"

2 - 17 3/4" long with cutouts on each end leaving a 1 1/2" long 3/4"
wide piece to form the hooks with the remaining 14 3/4" forged to 2" x
3/16" x 19 5/8"  and bent in the center to form the angle.  Hooks were
forged before bending to form the angle

2 - 14" long  forged to 2" x 3/16" x 19 1/4"

2.  Top Plate was made from one piece of  2" x 1/4"  4 1/2" long

Split each end in 1 1/2"  along center line. Heat and fold along center
line.  With fold up, forge ends down in and arc from inner edge of cut
on each end.  Unfold piece.  Use ~1 1/2" round bar to form smooth curve
between legs on each end. Forge each leg down to 1/4" round with short
taper on end to ~ 1/8" round on end(bend other leg 90 deg).  Form hook.

3. Grill Strips  10 pieces of 3/4" x 1/4"  12" long

Forge out to 3/16" x 5/8"  x 19"   with  rounded ends.

Chains  16 random length pieces 5" to 8" long

Forge small scarf on end form eye around 1/2" bar (I used 1/2" drift.
Taper allows reshaping eye after weld). Keep track of starting length
and finished length.  You'll need this to determine length of 4th link
in each chain to make chain 16 1/2" long.
Weld on end of horn. Gentle hammering to not distort eye or thin neck at
weld.  Repeat on other end.  Now form eye on next piece.  Before welding
, heat and open eye to insert eye from previously formed piece.  When
heating to weld found that best position for  previously formed link was
nearly vertical.  When at welding heat remove and if links are stuck
together, gently try to break them apart without moving link to be
welded.  If you  do bend scarf away from other side of link to be
welded, don't try to weld.  (It never worked for me at least.)  Before
reheating, quench previous link to prevent over heating and sticking. To
reshape new link joined to previous link, I used a 1/2 round chisel that
I dulled the edge of.  You could form a 1/2 round drift from flattened
end of 3/8" stock around a piece of 1/4" stock.  Slip around previous
link to shape new eye over pritchel hole. After 3 links are formed,
determine length required for 4th link.  Don't forget that link will be
inside eye of existing chain, so finished length required is 1/2" longer
that 16 1/2" - length of 3 link chain.

4. Hook

Used 3/4" x 1/4" stock.  I'll have to look for dimensions I used.

Hope this helps.  I'll clean up some of my sketches, particularly for
the top plate and post them.

Bill

April & Bill Clemens wrote:

 > Phlip,
 >
 > Just 3 sizes of stock:
 >
 > 2" x 1/4"  for the frame and top plate
 > 3/4" x 1/4" for the grill strips and top hook
 > 1/4" round for the chains, swivel eye and rivets
 >
 > actual thickness for the frame and grill strips was ~ 3/16" so had to
 > forge the 2 x 1/4 and 3/4 x 1/4 down also strips were only ~ 5/8" wide
 >
 > I'll send more details later today.
 >
 > Bill
 >
 > Phlip wrote:
 >
 >> Been looking over your past posts on the grill, starting to plan things.
 >> What sizes of stock did you use? As you said, the ,45 cm looked
 >> totally off,
 >> and the other sizes look a bit suspect. OTOH, your grill, or the pix
 >> i've
 >> seen, look proportionally right on. Starting to make a shopping
 >> list.....
 >>
 >> Phlip
 >>
 >> ----- Original Message -----
 >> From: "April & Bill Clemens" <[email protected]>
 >> To: <[email protected]>
 >> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:32 PM
 >> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Mastermyr II List of Items Update 2
 >>
 >>
 >>> Phlip,
 >>>
 >>> And I'm thinking about the pancakes you can make with that griddle and
 >>> spatula
 >>>
 >>> Bill
 >>>
 >>> Phlip wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> ----- Original Message -----
 >>>> From: "April & Bill Clemens" <[email protected]>
 >>>> To: <[email protected]>
 >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:18 PM
 >>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Mastermyr II List of Items Update 2
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>> Phlip,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> The catalog on the mastermyr website gives the basic dimensions:
 >>>>>
 >>>>> "Griddle with rim of sheet-iron  Pls. 6 and 24:18
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Round disc with up-turned rim and an irregular triangular hole in the
 >>>>> middle. It is incomplete: more than a third of the rim and a
 >>>>> portion of
 >>>>> the bottom are missing. Part of the rim has been secondarily bent
 >>>>> inwards. The griddle was repaired in antiquity with a triangular
 >>>>> patch,
 >>>>> riveted on with at least ten rivets. The patch is now partly
 >>>>> detached.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Diameter 22.3 cm; thickness of plate 0.3-0.4 cm."
 >>>>>
 >>>> OK, that makes it both smaller than I was thinking, and thicker- I was
 >>>> guesstimating about 14 guage steel, but it appears that I'll be closer
 >>>>
 >> with
 >>
 >>>> maybe 10 guage- I'll check my guagemeter, in a bit. No wonder it
 >>>>
 >> survived-
 >>
 >>>> 3-4 mm is some heavy stuff! I used 11 g for my forge table, and it
 >>>> took
 >>>>
 >> some
 >>
 >>>> work to shape and cut and drill and what not.
 >>>>
 >>>> Anybody know if pure iron comes in plate? And, where the neaest
 >>>> place is
 >>>>
 >> to
 >>
 >>>> get some? Going to need a fair amount for both these projects, and the
 >>>> Metalworking Symposium. Meantime, Rob is going to go see if the Navy
 >>>>
 >> might
 >>
 >>>> be throwing away any 10 inch mild steel disks, in say, the 3-4mm
 >>>> range-
 >>>>
 >> I'll
 >>
 >>>> need a couple of practice pieces for sure.
 >>>>
 >>>> Any sign of any deliberate holes in the thing for attachments, as for
 >>>> hanging, or are we looking at something set to rest on rocks over the
 >>>>
 >> fire?
 >>
 >>>> And, the triangular hole in the center- any clue as to if it were
 >>>> deliberate, for drainage, or simply a rusty spot, eating out from a
 >>>>
 >> smaller
 >>
 >>>> hole?
 >>>>
 >>>> Stiull thinking- but yes, Bill, I intend to do it.... also thinking
 >>>> about
 >>>> the spatula.....
 >>>>
 >>>> Phlip
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