Bill and Steve, I've been sharing your wonderful work with some of my SCA friends. Yeah, Steve, I know you're SCA too, but these folks are EK. They LOVE it. You both have the highest congratulations they can offer- one of them's EK Minister of Arts and Sciences, and he's VERY impressed !!!! Really beautiful, boys ;-D Phlip Never a horse that cain't be rode, And never a rider who cain't be throwed....