[TheForge] ABANA - long

Thu Jul 4 13:06:03 2002

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Silver" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] ABANA - long

> At 09:26 AM 7/4/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > And if you don't like us talking about the organization we belong to
> > and have a
> > > duty to look after, fine.
> >
> >I have no problem with this. Although it would never enter my mind that
we
> >have a
> >"duty" to look after ABANA. That is what we elect board members to do.
> >After two
> >years of dragging this thing around, it is just getting a little stale.
> >Why doesn't
> >George D. personally address the board members he is in disagreement
with,
> >instead
> >of taking it to theforge, where many of them are not subscribed?
>
> 1) As members we elect the board. They are responsible for running ABANA.
> As members we are responsible for evaluating their actions to determine if
> they are doing a good job, or should be replaced for whatever reason.
>
> 2) I get the impression that George has been trying the direct approach,
> and not been getting satisfaction. So his only recourse at that point is
to
> bring this to the membership in an attempt to get us to evaluate the
> situation and take actions that might change the situation. As for his
> choice of theForge, this is a forum of people of whom many are members so
> can start asking questions in a groundswell of support. It is also a
"free"
> medium, in both monetary cost (he doesn't have to take an ad out) and also
> free from the supposed censorship he has claimed he has faced in the ABANA
> publications. Therefore this is a proper medium for this conversation.
>
>
> > > Set your filters to ignore these threads, or simply hit the delete
key.
> > What
> > > we're having here is an exchange of information designed to bring to
> > light the
> > > facts of certain allegations.
> >
> >Right, and after a couple of year of accusations, nothing has been
resolved!
>
> Is that his fault or ours?
>
> > > If there is nothing to be found, so be it. If there is, we will be
> > informed and
> > > can make decisions based on that information.
> >
> >And what would the decision be?  To drop out of ABANA? I joined ABANA
about 20
> >years ago and am more pleased with the two publications than ever. As far
> >as the
> >conferences, (the only other other benefit to me) they have become 10
ring
> >circuses
> >and way too big. I personally liked the Ripley, WV and DePere, Wisc.
> >conferences.
> >None since then.
>
> Dropping out would be one option. Taking more of a part in the elections
> would be another. Take the latest election where we only had 4 candidates
> for 5 positions. Anything that increases activism in this our organization
> is to be lauded.
>
> >SO, I am happy with the Anvils Ring, and now the redesigned Hammers Blow,
> >and I
> >continue to send in my dues in their support, and vote for board members
> >as I am
> >notified about the elections.
> >On that note, isn't it a shame that only 208 members actually returned
the
> >ballot
> >cards  for the vote on the revision of the bylaws! I sent mine in, did
you?
>
> Yup. And I heartily approve(d) of the changes made. I think this is an
> example of how our involvement is reflected in the organization. This
> started as a fight over liability and the proper procedures for removing
> parts of the organization that were seen to be increasing the liability of
> the group. Instead of simply ignoring the outcry and proceeding with the
> original course of action the board took a look at the situation and came
> up with what I believe to be a viable and novel option. In the discussions
> prior to the new bylaws I had not seen it suggested to change the
structure
> of the organization to change the liability. Someone (or some group of
> people... dare I say "the board" :-)) was thinking outside the box on this
> one. Bravo!

And could that that someone have been Bob Jacoby, new board member, FABA
member, SERBC member?

Bobby Hart
Hush Puppy Forge
Griffin, GA
OBG, AFC
>
>
> >Chris
> >Alexandria VA
>
> Aaron Silver
>
>
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