[TheForge] ABANA - long

Wed Jul 3 21:32:00 2002

I don't see  "conspiracy ISSUE "  in the point that  George Dixon  made on 
his last big email:. it is simply that the decision to switch editors of 
the "Anvil's  Ring" had apparently been made when George  Dixon apparently 
used the emails  provided him by then  "Anvils Ring " editor Jim 
McCarty   from Dorothy Stiegler and Clare Yellin, and presented his 
dilemma   to the ABANA board.  It back fired .

Most whistle blowers get hammered. (blacksmith content).

Perhaps the ABANA Board reacted properly by changing a 
"disloyal  editor"  with one might understand  board politics.

Dann Johnson

At 07:46 PM 7/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Chris-
>
>The contradiction is right where I copied it in... "No I did not receive 
>it"... "Yes I signed for it, but I didn't open it."
>
>If he didn't open it, fine... but at least have the decency to treat us as 
>something other than children and tell us the truth the first time. The 
>involvement is simple enough that a straightforward response a week ago 
>would have settled this. Instead, he simply gave more fuel for the fire, 
>and damaged his reputation in the eyes of this member. Since I don't know 
>Bill other than via this medium I can only judge him by his actions on 
>this forum. He made a statement a week ago and the one this week is a 
>direct contradiction. With that as my only measure of the man, I must say 
>the measure is not looking too good at this point.
>
>And if you don't like us talking about the organization we belong to and 
>have a duty to look after, fine. Set your filters to ignore these threads, 
>or simply hit the delete key. What we're having here is an exchange of 
>information designed to bring to light the facts of certain allegations. 
>If there is nothing to be found, so be it. If there is, we will be 
>informed and can make decisions based on that information. Until then we 
>are simply uninformed, and can be written off as whiners. After that 
>point, if we do nothing, than we can be written off as lazy.
>
>Aaron Silver
>
>
>
>At 07:22 PM 7/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>What is the contradiction?????
>>Bill just stated that he signed for a PACKAGE that he did not open! That 
>>is not
>>signing for a bid!
>>You read what you want into this bullshit, comment on it endlessly, and 
>>it will
>>continue for another two years.
>>Perhaps George Dixon can start a Whiners column in his publication, and 
>>move this
>>off the list, where it seems to be attractive to only a few  responders.
>>
>>Chris
>>Alexandria VA
>>
>>Aaron Silver wrote:
>>
>> > Well, I AM a member, and I've been passingly interested in this. I find it
>> > interesting that a previous question posed to and responded by bill is
>> > directly contradicted here:
>> >
>> > Wed Jun 26 18:22:00 2002
>> >  > Darrell,
>> >  > I fully understand the question.  I did not sign for a bid.  Bids or a
>> >  > better word proposals were presented to the total ABANA Board for a 
>> vote.
>> >  > If you are a member of ABANA you can get a copy of the minutes of that
>> >  > meeting and read for yourself.  This is about all I have to say on this
>> >  > issue.  I am no longer on the ABANA Board and you should direct your
>> >  > questions to  one of the present board members regarding this issue .
>> >  > Bill
>> >
>> > Wed Jul 3 14:53:00 2002
>> >  > >The only thing that I will reply to was the so called bid.  Yes I 
>> received
>> >  > >the package, signed for it and passed it along to Doug Learn.  I 
>> did not
>> >  > >even open the envelope.
>> >  > >Bill
>> >
>> > Now this is a direct contradiction. I'm not a conspiracy theorist so I'm
>> > going to assume that this is not part of a larger sinister plot to 
>> hide the
>> > truth. I will say however that this is disturbing, and if this is how the
>> > membership and the watching public has to drag information out (i.e.
>> > provide proof that the previous statements are lies before the truth is
>> > admitted) then I for one am not ready to dismiss any future statements
>> > against the board out of hand.
>> >
>> > I understand Bill wasn't the President of the Board when the vote was 
>> taken
>> > and claims to have not even opened the bid, however I must say my being
>> > able to believe his statements at face value have gone down-hill with this
>> > latest round of emails.
>> >
>> > Aaron Silver
>> >
>>
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