[TheForge] welding 1 1/2" square

Sat Jan 26 20:08:34 2002

Pete, Thanks again.  I did notice that the strike was more effective and
consistent when the rod angle was less than 45 degrees. RW

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Fels and Phoebe Palmer <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] welding 1 1/2" square

> At 10:38 PM 1/25/02, you wrote:
>
> RW: For rods that are hard to start
> 1.Make sure you have a solid ground connection top bright metal.
> 2.Grind a clean area to start your arc.
> 3. Strike the rod like a kitchen match but keep the end of the stroke low
> to the steel.
> Pete some more.
>
>
> >Just tell her how strong they are, I was a ticketed welder but I still
have
> >trouble with some of the different rods, 7018 mainly, 6011 can be tricky
> >too.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "RW" <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: [TheForge] welding 1 1/2" square
> >
> >
> > > I used 6011 in 1/8.  Had trouble getting it started but it finally ran
for
> > > me.  It is well stuck but it aint purdy.  Its been about 20 years
since I
> > > used a stick and never was much good.  The welds will be hidden by
> >fireplace
> > > ashes.  However,  I need to hide them from my wife also because I
always
> > > point out shoddy technique and workmanship on ironwork in her
decorating
> > > magazines etc.  If she sees my "lovely beads", my aesthetic highground
> >will
> > > be lost for a long time.
> > > RW, the humble
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ralph Sproul <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:48 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] welding 1 1/2" square
> > >
> > >
> > > > RW,  For penetration get some 6011 when using AC.  The 6013 and 7014
> >rods
> > > > are for deposition and smooth flow.  If you want some dig, strength,
> >fast
> > > > freeze, with a little rust or dirt - the 6011 is the best.   If you
want
> > > to
> > > > do the least clean up and aren't worried about structural integrity
use
> > > the
> > > > 6013.    I'd also get 1/8 rod for stringer beads if you are going to
buy
> > > > just one size.
> > > >
> > > > Ralph
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "RW" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] welding 1 1/2" square
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks to all.  I need to buy some new dry rod.  Would you
recommend
> > > 6013
> > > > > for this application?
> > > > > RW
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Miller, Ray (GEAE) <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:10 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [TheForge] welding 1 1/2" square
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Absolutely!! What you need to do is grind in a "weld Prep".
Chamfer
> > > the
> > > > > ends
> > > > > > of each side of the butt joint. When you go to make the weld,
not
> > > > actually
> > > > > > butt the ends together. Leave a gap, less than an 1/8" and then
put
> >in
> > > a
> > > > > > root pass. The gap will improve your chances of good solid root
pass
> > > > > fusion.
> > > > > > Then put in your cover passes until you have enough material to
> >grind
> > > > back
> > > > > > the surface for finishing. Or if esthetics is secondary, put in
a
> >nice
> > > > > final
> > > > > > cover pass and your good to go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ray Miller
> > > > > > Cincinnati, Ohio 4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.casealum.org/alumnuswinter2001/page6.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.uc.edu/profiles/rmiller.htm
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: RW [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:32 AM
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: [TheForge] welding 1 1/2" square
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it possible to butt weld 1 1/2" solid mild steel with a 230
amp
> > > max.,
> > > > > AC
> > > > > > 220v welder?
> > > > > > It does not need to be a "structural weld", just to hold a
fireplace
> > > > grate
> > > > > > frame together.
> > > > > > I tried it with a #7 oxy/acet tip which is for 1 1/4" max and it
is
> > > not
> > > > > much
> > > > > > better than if I had used chewing gum.
> > > > > > RW
> > > > > >
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