Paint, the "traditional finish" (was Re: [TheForge] finish help)

Thu Jan 10 00:30:02 2002

Just sitting down with a beer so forgive the typo's. I was a shipwright before moving to the prairies. I started blacksmithing since there is not much shipwright work here. I had a rich guy with a nice boat and I did his bright work for him. I did it every spring and fall, I can't remember the cost but lets say $5,000.00 a year. He decided to save money he would have me only do it once a year. Well instead of a light sanding I had to strip off all the old varnish and sand the wood (teak) to get rid of the gray. It ended up costing $10,000.00. The bottom line is that UV and the elements brake down the Varnish, paint will last longer. If you want to see the natural colour of the wood or in the blacksmithing world, the steel, you will have at least yearly maintance if not twice a year. I can not speak for powder coatings they may have clear coats that last longer. If there is a coating that will last forever please let me know and I will be the guy with the boat.
"Shannell" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Is the linseed/wax combo what Yellin and others used on their outdoor
>pieces, recoating every couple of years??? If not does this hold up, Im
>doing some gates for our home and was thinking of trying an exterior clear
>coat, because its my house then reapplying a finish every year or so is no
>problem.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "thermoss" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:38 AM
>Subject: Re: Paint, the "traditional finish" (was Re: [TheForge] finish
>help)
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>> and taste better.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: GHS <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: Paint, the "traditional finish" (was Re: [TheForge] finish
>> help)
>>
>>
>> > "You got beeswax in my linseed oil."
>> > "No, you got linseed oil on my beeswax."
>> >
>> > And a legend is born.
>> >
>> > Mike Graf, waiting for the coffee to kick in
>> >
>> >
>> > "Miller, Ray (GEAE)" wrote:
>> >
>> > > The beeswax makes it smell sweet....;-)
>> > > Ray Miller
>> > > Cincinnati
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Dave Brown [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:40 AM
>> > > To: [email protected]
>> > > Subject: Paint, the "traditional finish" (was Re: [TheForge] finish
>> > > help)
>> > >
>> > > At 06:58 01/09/02, you wrote:
>> > > >Depends on what you mean by "traditional finish". Most of the
>> architectural
>> > > >iron work I have seen (such as gates) that has lasted any length of
>> time
>> > > out
>> > > >doors has been painted, and rather thickly too.
>> > >
>> > > When you stop and think about it, just what is the linseed oil based
>> > > 'traditional finish' if not paint?  There was a time before water
>based
>> > > paints when most paints were oil based.  And what oil was that you
>> > > ask?  Linseed oil.  Yup, the basis for the blacksmith's "traditional
>> > > finish".
>> > >
>> > > I'm not positive, but it seems the addition of beeswax is done to keep
>> the
>> > > dried finish slightly flexible.  The dried linseed oil can be brittle
>> and I
>> > > think the wax reduces the brittleness to help it hold up a little
>better
>> > > and not chip so easy.  If this isn't the case, then why add the
>> > > beeswax?  Just for luster?  Any other thoughts on this out there?
>> > >
>> > > Dave Brown
>> > > Blacksmith/Tinsmith
>> > > Green Bay, WI
>> > > ABANA, UMBA, GoM, MODA, ARG
>> > >
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