[TenTec] Orion II

[John Kemker]

Ah, yes.  The nefarious "someone" who signed you up for the list.  In
over 25 years on Usenet and the Internet and mailing lists in general,
it always seems to get blamed on the "someone" who signed you up for the
list.  Despite the fact that the list is actually designed to prevent
such occurrence from actually happening.  You see, it's those
notifications that go to you telling you that someone signed you up for
the list and if you didn't want the list, what to do to correct the
problem.  Missed that part, did you?

Almost my entire career as a ham, I have owned one piece of TenTec
hardware or another.  I have had plenty of opportunities to talk with
TenTec customer service.  It has always been second to none.  I would
suggest that you *might* be one of those people who gets their feathers
ruffled when anyone suggests that *you* might be at fault.  Which, of
course, a genius like yourself could never be at fault.

Your mention of a "negative review" gives a hint towards your
motivation.  Evidently, a customer service experience you had didn't go
exactly the way that you desired and/or you failed to explain to the rep
at TenTec what, exactly, you had done to solve RF grounding issues at
your QTH.  Rather than simply sell the rig and move on to one that more
suits your ego, you decided to start "spreading the word" on how
"terrible" TenTec is.  You now disguise it as having altruistic motives,
claiming that you hope that if you "pointed out a few short comings
(sic) maybe the orion III maybe (sic) better."

I don't think anyone on here thinks the Orion is perfect.  However, for
whatever reason, they prefer it to other rigs.  While you're certainly
entitled to your opinion, your manner of delivery marks you as the sort
of fellow that used to be found sneaking around under bridges in
Scandinavia.

Please do unsubscribe.  It should be easy for a genius like yourself to
figure out how.

73 de W5NNH

P A CUMMINS wrote:
> Sounds like Paul at Ten Tec, I have a RF ground system under my shack,
> It was put there when I my house was built 3 years ago,  As far as
> that goes I run  1500 out with my MKV and my Pro no RF issues at all.
> All my antennas are over a 100 feet away. Look someone must have a
> signed me up because of my negative reveiw on one of the other sites I
> will try and get removed from this board. Sorry for voicing my
> thoughts about the poor service "I"
> received from Ten Tec. Their thoughts are always something is wrong in
> your ground, power supply or something other than there product. And
> the other two hams are WV4X and NA9F both had RF issuses and software
> problems. I dont want to shake anyone up but that is the way it goes.
> I now will try and be removed and let you guys go on your merry way,
> Sorry but thought if someone pointed out  a few short comings maybe
> the orion III maybe better, But if everyone sits back and pats Ten Tec
> on the back why would they try to improve their  radio,  Call Paul and
> ask him what he runs he don't even run Ten Tec he runs Collins gear!
> That was told to me by him! That gave me a great assurance. Thanks and
> have a great time, With the updates and more updates to fix the new
> problems AND THEN ANOTHER UPDATE TO FIX THE PROBLEMS THAT ONE CREATED.
> Like I have always said if Yaesu or Icom did this, very one would be
> out for blood. No more Ten Tecs for Me. But lets be honest if in your
> mind it is perfect than its your money. As I remember Drake guys and
> Swan guys were alot like this groups mind set! Oh yea,some of you new
> guys wont remember them, they went out of business.
>                                                                         
> Again I did not sign up for this group!!!
>                                                                         
> It was someones Idea of a joke!
>                                                                          
> Perry Cummins WK9L
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Menzel" <retire at means.net>
> To: "Discussion of Tentec equipment" <tentec at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion II
>
>
>>
>> Wow! What a diatribe.
>>
>>> Do yourself a favor and look at a
>>> Yaesu FT 1000MP MKV,
>>
>> A FAVOR???   Well, I did, and I bought my first Orion as a result.
>> Compared to the OII , the receiver is a block of wood, the menu
>> system is ungainly and awkward, and obfuscated, too.  The display is
>> awful, and without a LOT of filters the receiver is easily
>> overloaded...oh, and the stock radio has key clicks up the whazoo on cw.
>>
>> I have two people that I know that have bought the Big
>>> O II and been very diappointed!
>>
>> This is pretty vague.  Sounds to me like YOU never owned one, and
>> that the mysterious "two people" never read the manual...or took time
>> to learn the radio.
>>
>>> RF issuses out the nose
>>
>> Excuse me?  RF issues...what would they be?  Sounds like someone
>> doesn't have the slightest idea about station grounding.
>>
>>> and the audio just  plain stinks.
>>
>> Receive audio or transmit audio?  I would argue that both are under
>> operator control and refer to my previous comment.  Operator error,
>> certainly.
>>
>>
>>> No more Ten Tec's for this guy!!
>>
>> When did you have an Orion II or even Orion I?  I can't beleive that
>> you EVER did, because if you had, you'd be singing a much different
>> tune.
>>
>> Look Guys I did not sign up
>>> for this group, I would like to be removed. thanks
>> WK9L
>>
>> Sounds to me that you should stick around just to see the responses
>> to your ill-informed, hearsay post.
>>
>>
>> Oh...by the way, if you can figure out how to unsubscribe, it'll be
>> because you CAN read the "manual" which is belied by your post in the
>> first place.
>>
>> Have a great day.  We'll enjoy our excellent radios...and at least
>> one more guy will, too, because you'll not have one.
>>
>> Larry, N0XB
>> Northfield, MN
>>
>> .
>>>                                         ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Artmouton" <k5fnq at cox.net>
>>> To: <Tentec at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:06 PM
>>> Subject: [TenTec] Orion II
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am leaning toward purchasing the Orion II and have a few question
>>>> for the group.
>>>> 1) What power supply is needed?
>>>> 2)  with the normal setup of a beam and 80 & 40 Inv Vee's all with
>>>> fairly good swr is the tuner a necessity?
>>>> 3) What about the other "filters".  1.8 seems like SSB so really
>>>> not needed here as I do mostly CW work.
>>>> Are the 600 and 300 Hz filters that good and would they make that
>>>> much difference?
>>>> I am currently using an FT-1 on its last legs.
>>>> Any assistance or comments will be appreciated.
>>>> Art K5FNQ
>>>>
>>>> Art Mouton
>>>>
>>>> "[S]o long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom,
>>>> those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active
>>>> and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number
>>>> of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping
>>>> men." --Voltaire
>>>> _______________