[Spooks] New question on NS

[Charles Bennett]

Very small world indeed.

I got there in July or August same year till the end of 76.   That whole base has been converted to housing or some such.    For the list it was an old SS headquarters.    

I didn't worry much about talking about the GRA-71s since I knew that tech was way past it's expiration date ( me too I guess ) the DMDGs were after my time.  

I remember the NCO academy well.   I started as a 32H but got pressed into all sorts of things since I was a ham and they needed guys that could handle morse. 

73,
Chuck

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> On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:46 PM, k1rmc at aol.com wrote:
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> Hi Chuck......I was at Bad Toelz in January 72 at the NCO Academy during my Army days (MOS 31M40). Later I transferred to the Navy Reserve as a Radioman First Class and my unit provided comm. support to the 11th SF at FT Devens in the mid-80's. The GRA-71's were gone, replaced by the DMDG (Digital Message Device Group) but they still sent the BTB via manual morse which I got to do. QSL the tape recorders. I used them earlier in my Navy career for other work.....73 Mark K1RMC
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> From: Charles Bennett <bennettc at me.com>
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> I've been lurking on the list for awhile but haven't really had anything to 
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> In the mid 70s I was, occasionally, what you guys refer to as a numbers station.    
> Not the kind that operates for months or years but the kind that pops up, runs 
> for a week or two, and then stops.   I was working with 10th special forces in 
> bad toelz Germany sending encrypted messages to teams In the field.  5 letter 
> code groups, broadcast at particular times.   Sometimes it would be the same 
> transmission for a day, sometimes it would change often.   I was at a remote 
> station with a secure teletype and the messages would arrive pre encrypted so I 
> did not know the contents.  I would then rebroadcast them in morse.
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> Sometimes I would work the receiving end using high speed tape recorders.   The 
> teams would send encoded messages using a gra~71 encoder so even though it was 
> morse code it was sent as a very high speed burst.   We would record that then 
> slow the tapes way down on playback and create hard copies of the messages.   
> Again we never saw the unencrypted messages when we were receiving, just the 5 
> letter code groups.
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> Just that you all might like that bit of trivia.
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> Best
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> Chuck
> WB8CEE
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>> On Mar 17, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Gian Romani <romanigian at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thank you Todd!
>> ciao
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>> 2014-03-17 19:51 GMT+01:00 Todd Dokey <justcallmebuddy at gmail.com>:
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>>> Dividing numbers into 4 or 5 number groups is done for the same reason
>>> phone numbers get split up into groups -so you can remember the
>>> string.
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>>> Its a cognitive science thing.
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