[Spooks] site 58.007757, 28.20354 Was: MDZhB Transmitter Site

[Zack Widup]

I worked on an experimental ELF antenna project when I was working on my
Master's in Radio Science in college. We grad students had to lug all the
lengths of coax cable out in a muddy open field. We probably put a few
miles of coax down for a (relatively) small antenna on the ground's
surface. At least it was smaller than the final version built in Wisconsin!

73, Zack



On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Matt Johnson <kd0lvh at omega.org> wrote:

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> Regarding the site at 58.007757, 28.20354
> ([1]http://goo.gl/maps/0aAS0), check out this [2]Wikipedia entry[1] on
> extremely low frequency transmissions (ELF). Quoted below:
>
>
>
> Building an ELF transmitter is a formidable challenge, as they have to
> work at incredibly long wavelength...
>
>
>
> ...one has to find an area with very low ground conductivity (a
> requirement opposite to usual radio transmitter sites), bury two huge
> electrodes in the ground at different sites, and then feed lines to
> them from a station in the middle...
>
>
>
> "The antenna is very inefficient. To drive it, a dedicated power plant
> seems to be required..."[emphasis mine]
>
>
> I see a small sub-station to the southeast a few hundred yards, but I
> don't see dedicated power plant nearby.
>
> If huge electrodes need to be buried, one might expect to see
> excavation on site as shown in the upper left part of the Google Maps
> image.
>
> At the Wikipedia link, look at the at the Clam Lake ELF site photo next
> to the text.  It kind of jogged my memory as to what I was looking at
> back on December 20th with Mikes first post in this thread!
>
> Might this site be a Extremely Low Frequency site?
>
> [1]
> [3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely
> _low_frequency
>
> ----- Original message -----
> From: Mike Tibor <tibor at tibor.org>
> To: spooks at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Spooks] MDZhB Transmitter Site
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:22:52 -0900 (AKST)
> [cut]
>
> Has anyone found the probable location of the current MDZhB/UVB-76
> transmitter site? The best I can see is that it's narrowed down to "the
> Pskov region". I've never seen any references that get more specific
> than that.
>
> I may have found one possibility:
>
> 58.007757, 28.20354
>
> I have no idea if that might be it, but the location's about right. It
> has what appears to be a tall microwave tower similar in size to the
> one
> at the old UVB-76 site. It also has a nearby power substation just to
> the
> southeast. Unfortunately I can't see anything that resembles an HF
> antenna in the area.
>
> I'm sure I'm not the first to find this size in Google Maps, but I
> haven't
> seen any talk about it anywhere, so I was curious.
> [cut]
>
> References
>
> 1. http://goo.gl/maps/0aAS0
> 2.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency
> 3.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency
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