[Spooks] site 58.007757, 28.20354 Was: MDZhB Transmitter Site

[Tobbe]

Hi,

I've been looking at the surroundings of those coordinates using Google Earth and found some towers on all the islands at 58 00 25N 28 02 51E

There is one picture called Остров Белов (Belov Island) on the left part of the right island of those three showing two towers, one red and white and one lattice tower. In some other pictures, Tolobenec Island e.g. there are other lattice towers seen.
Is that too far away from 58.007757N 28.20354E to be an antenna? Or are they just power lines? They could have a transmitter site on one of the islands or in the blurred area on the mainland, I don't know.

The lattice towers are similar to those at SAQ Grimeton, Sweden.

I'm probably wrong but it's an idea.

Best regards
Torbjorn in Sweden


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Regarding the site at 58.007757, 28.20354 ([1]http://goo.gl/maps/0aAS0), check out this [2]Wikipedia entry[1] on extremely low frequency transmissions (ELF). Quoted below:



Building an ELF transmitter is a formidable challenge, as they have to work at incredibly long wavelength...



...one has to find an area with very low ground conductivity (a requirement opposite to usual radio transmitter sites), bury two huge electrodes in the ground at different sites, and then feed lines to them from a station in the middle...



"The antenna is very inefficient. To drive it, a dedicated power plant seems to be required..."[emphasis mine]


I see a small sub-station to the southeast a few hundred yards, but I don't see dedicated power plant nearby.

If huge electrodes need to be buried, one might expect to see excavation on site as shown in the upper left part of the Google Maps image.

At the Wikipedia link, look at the at the Clam Lake ELF site photo next to the text.  It kind of jogged my memory as to what I was looking at back on December 20th with Mikes first post in this thread!

Might this site be a Extremely Low Frequency site?

[1]
[3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely
_low_frequency

----- Original message -----
From: Mike Tibor <tibor at tibor.org>
To: spooks at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Spooks] MDZhB Transmitter Site
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:22:52 -0900 (AKST) [cut]

Has anyone found the probable location of the current MDZhB/UVB-76 transmitter site? The best I can see is that it's narrowed down to "the Pskov region". I've never seen any references that get more specific than that.

I may have found one possibility:

58.007757, 28.20354

I have no idea if that might be it, but the location's about right. It has what appears to be a tall microwave tower similar in size to the one at the old UVB-76 site. It also has a nearby power substation just to the southeast. Unfortunately I can't see anything that resembles an HF antenna in the area.

I'm sure I'm not the first to find this size in Google Maps, but I haven't seen any talk about it anywhere, so I was curious.
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References

1. http://goo.gl/maps/0aAS0
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency
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