Two members have said it very well. > Competence is tolerated, but not encouraged. > I demand the right to make a fool of myself in any way I see fit. That is the essence of SOC in a nutshell. :-) OK, back in my hole, Ron, KU7Y Mountain Home, ID DN23dc CW Ops #1211 QRP ARCI #8829 Idaho DX Association Ron at ku7y.com