[SOC] Bill of Non-Rights
Kevin Rock
[email protected]
Thu Apr 29 19:55:30 2004
Another breaker of icons. Oh what ever shall I do?
Kevin.
What is his call sign and does he work CW? How fast?
KJR
KR3GOD ?
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:50:29 -0700, Trevor Jacobs
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> God gave up on organized religion and started his own mailing list
> here
> on qth.net. [email protected]. It was more effective for him as a
> communications medium to the masses. Besides, he likes to sleep in on
> Sundays and attending all of the different services was getting to be
> quite
> a strain ;-)
>
> 73's Trev - K6ESE
> http://www.qsl.net/k6ese
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Rock" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [SOC] Bill of Non-Rights
>
>
>> I've never asked a preacher this following question but it would prove
>> most interesting :) What religion is God? Whichever church He attends
>> is
>> the one I'll use for my belief system.
>> 73,
>> Kevin.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:47:58 -0500, Reicher, James
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have a couple issues, too...
>> >
>> > 1 - "ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country." What about the
>> > huge percentage of American citizens who speak only Spanish?
>> >
>> > 2 - "ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's
>> > history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one
>> true
>> > God." Let's see, there are two parts to this one.
>> >
>> > A - Whose interpretation do we use? The one where those of us
>> > whose ancestors immigrated from Europe and Asia came over and stole
>> > the country from the Native American tribes who lived here long
>> > before the Old World even dreamed of the Western Hemisphere? Or
>> > the one where we white people own the whole country and everyone
>> > else be damned?
>> >
>> > B - Actually this country was founded on the belief that
>> > government should rely on no one person, but on the rule of law.
>> > After all, that's what the Declaration of Independence says. If it
>> > were founded on the belief in "one true God", which one would that
>> > be? Would it include Hindu or Shinto gods, of which there are many?
>> > Or if you're talking about the Christian god, would that be the
>> > Methodist god? Or the Baptist one? Perhaps the Catholic god is
>> > your choice? Don't forget Allah or Jehovah!
>> >
>> > 73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> > Behalf Of Paul Bartlett
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:30 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [SOC] Bill of Non-Rights
>> >
>> > Nice one.
>> >
>> > Since we don't have a constitution (let alone a Bill of Rights), as a
>> > Brit
>> > I'm hardly in a position to judge.
>> >
>> > By and large though, it's all complete and utter common sense (not
>> very
>> > common according to Heinlein).
>> >
>> > Two issues:
>> >
>> > 1) I'm not keen on the idea of
>> frying/poisoning/hanging/shooting/gassing
>> > people 'cos the process is too error prone.
>> >
>> > (This issue nearly broke the list a while back and I will make *no*
>> > further
>> > comment).
>> >
>> > 2) Are you sure you speak English?
>> >
>> > Paul ;-)
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "W2AGN" <[email protected]>
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:57 PM
>> > Subject: [SOC] Bill of Non-Rights
>> >
>> >
>> >> With the current discussion, this seemed appropriate.
>> >>
>> >> The following has been attributed to State Representative Mitchell
>> > Kaye
>> > from
>> >> GA.
>> >>
>> >> "We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help
>> > everyone
>> >> get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep
>> > our
>> >> nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of
>> > debt
>> > free
>> >> liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby
>> > try
>> > one
>> >> more time to ordain and
>> >> establish some common sense guidelines for the perpetually whiny,
>> > guilt
>> >> ridden, delusional, and other liberal bed-wetters.
>> >>
>> >> We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people
>> > are
>> >> confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of
>> >> NON-Rights."
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or
>> > any
>> >> other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire
>> > them,
>> > but
>> >> no one is guaranteeing anything.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This
>> > country
>> > is
>> >> based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just
>> you!
>> > You
>> >> may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion,
>> > etc.;
>> > but
>> >> the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you
>> > stick
>> > a
>> >> screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the
>> > tool
>> >> manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently
>> > wealthy.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing.
>> > Americans
>> > are
>> >> the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone
>> in
>> > need,
>> >> but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after
>> > generation
>> >> of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the
>> > creation
>> > of
>> >> another generation of professional couch potatoes.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would
>> > be
>> > nice,
>> >> but from the condition of public housing, we're just not interested
>> in
>> > public
>> >> health care.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other
>> > people. If
>> > you
>> >> kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised
>> > if
>> > the
>> >> rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others.
>> > If
>> > you
>> >> rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens,
>> > don't
>> > be
>> >> surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place
>> > where
>> >> you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of
>> > leisure.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure
>> want
>> > you
>> > to
>> >> have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we
>> > expect
>> > you
>> >> to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational
>> > training
>> >> laid out before you
>> >> to make yourself useful.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an
>> American
>> > means
>> >> that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way is a
>> lot
>> > easier
>> >> if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created
>> > by
>> > those
>> >> of you who were confussed by the Bill of Rights.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where
>> > you
>> > are
>> >> from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you
>> > came
>> > from.
>> >>
>> >> ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's
>> history
>> > or
>> >> heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And
>> > yet,
>> >> you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or
>> no
>> > faith
>> >> at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is
>> > part of
>> >> our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it,
>> > TOUGH!!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> John W2AGN
>> >> http://w2agn.net
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