[SOC] Bill of Non-Rights

Thu Apr 29 19:45:20 2004

Kevin,

    God gave up on organized religion and started his own mailing list here
on qth.net. [email protected]. It was more effective for him as a
communications medium to the masses. Besides, he likes to sleep in on
Sundays and attending all of the different services was getting to be quite
a strain ;-)

73's Trev - K6ESE
http://www.qsl.net/k6ese
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Rock" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [SOC] Bill of Non-Rights


> I've never asked a preacher this following question but it would prove
> most interesting :)  What religion is God?  Whichever church He attends is
> the one I'll use for my belief system.
>    73,
>       Kevin.
>
>
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:47:58 -0500, Reicher, James <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > I have a couple issues, too...
> >
> > 1 - "ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country." What about the
> > huge percentage of American citizens who speak only Spanish?
> >
> > 2 - "ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's
> > history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true
> > God."  Let's see, there are two parts to this one.
> >
> > A - Whose interpretation do we use?  The one where those of us
> > whose ancestors immigrated from Europe and Asia came over and stole
> > the country from the Native American tribes who lived here long
> > before the Old World even dreamed of the Western Hemisphere?  Or
> > the one where we white people own the whole country and everyone
> > else be damned?
> >
> > B - Actually this country was founded on the belief that
> > government should rely on no one person, but on the rule of law.
> > After all, that's what the Declaration of Independence says.  If it
> > were founded on the belief in "one true God", which one would that
> > be? Would it include Hindu or Shinto gods, of which there are many?
> > Or if you're talking about the Christian god, would that be the
> > Methodist god?  Or the Baptist one?  Perhaps the Catholic god is
> > your choice?  Don't forget Allah or Jehovah!
> >
> > 73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of Paul Bartlett
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:30 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [SOC] Bill of Non-Rights
> >
> > Nice one.
> >
> > Since we don't have a constitution (let alone a Bill of Rights), as a
> > Brit
> > I'm hardly in a position to judge.
> >
> > By and large though, it's all complete and utter common sense (not very
> > common according to Heinlein).
> >
> > Two issues:
> >
> > 1) I'm not keen on the idea of frying/poisoning/hanging/shooting/gassing
> > people 'cos the process is too error prone.
> >
> > (This issue nearly broke the list a while back and I will make *no*
> > further
> > comment).
> >
> > 2) Are you sure you speak English?
> >
> > Paul ;-)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "W2AGN" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:57 PM
> > Subject: [SOC] Bill of Non-Rights
> >
> >
> >> With the current discussion, this seemed appropriate.
> >>
> >>  The following has been attributed to State Representative Mitchell
> > Kaye
> > from
> >> GA.
> >>
> >>  "We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help
> > everyone
> >> get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep
> > our
> >> nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of
> > debt
> > free
> >> liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby
> > try
> > one
> >> more time to ordain and
> >>  establish some common sense guidelines for the perpetually whiny,
> > guilt
> >> ridden, delusional, and other liberal bed-wetters.
> >>
> >>  We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people
> > are
> >> confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of
> >> NON-Rights."
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or
> > any
> >> other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire
> > them,
> > but
> >> no one is guaranteeing anything.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This
> > country
> > is
> >> based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you!
> > You
> >> may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion,
> > etc.;
> > but
> >> the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you
> > stick
> > a
> >> screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the
> > tool
> >> manufacturer to make  you and all your relatives independently
> > wealthy.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing.
> > Americans
> > are
> >> the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in
> > need,
> >> but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after
> > generation
> >> of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the
> > creation
> > of
> >> another generation of professional couch potatoes.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would
> > be
> > nice,
> >> but from the condition of public housing, we're just not interested in
> > public
> >> health care.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other
> > people. If
> > you
> >> kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised
> > if
> > the
> >> rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others.
> > If
> > you
> >> rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens,
> > don't
> > be
> >> surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place
> > where
> >> you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of
> > leisure.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want
> > you
> > to
> >> have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we
> > expect
> > you
> >> to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational
> > training
> >> laid out before you
> >>  to make yourself useful.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American
> > means
> >> that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way is a lot
> > easier
> >> if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created
> > by
> > those
> >> of you who were confussed by the Bill of Rights.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where
> > you
> > are
> >> from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you
> > came
> > from.
> >>
> >>  ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history
> > or
> >> heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And
> > yet,
> >> you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no
> > faith
> >> at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is
> > part of
> >> our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it,
> > TOUGH!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> John W2AGN
> >> http://w2agn.net
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