[SOC] Iraq, the war, et al: Part 3 of 4

Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:22:18 -0400

My goodness the paranoia runs deep! 

I'm not saying it couldn't/doesn't happen, but if/when it does I'll bet that the individual in question isn't the most squeaky-clean person you've ever seen.  

It ain't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than most, and if you don't like it you get your opportunity to make changes every few years.  My firm belief is that if you find that there's more wrong with your country than there is right you can either try to fix it, find another country that will have you, or get out the Crayola's and color.

Mike
KG8L

> 
> From: "Reicher, James" <[email protected]>
> Date: 2003/09/16 Tue AM 11:20:01 EDT
> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [SOC] Iraq, the war, et al: Part 3 of 4
> 
> Yes, the only thing we have to fear is the fear of being enprisoned for
> indefinite periods of time, without indictment or conviction by the
> Attorney-General and his gang of thugs.
> 
> 73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Besemer (KG8L/4) [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:11 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [SOC] Iraq, the war, et al: Part 3 of 4
> 
> 
> Just be thankful that we live in a country where we can have this debate
> without fear of loosing our heads!
> 
> Mike
> KG8L
> STILL proudly serving:  USAF 1981 - ??
> Desert Storm
> Korea
> Operation Enduring Freedom
> Operation Iraqi Freedom
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of Todd Butler
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:13 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [SOC] Iraq, the war, et al: Part 3 of 4
> 
> 
> Mike Besemer (KG8L/4) wrote:
> 
> >It's easy to throw stones at our governments
> >
> Well, I've constantly heard enough "ultra conservative (and
> unchallenged) hype and lies.  Therefore, I take it that "governments" is the
> collection of countries duped by the untrustworthy leader of the most
> powerful, compassionate conservative of the world?
> 
> >in light of events that have already occurred,
> >
> Please explain to all of us what "Mission Was Accomplished" back on May 1,
> 2003.  I still hear of soldiers dying, of long separations because of duty,
> and (Quoting Secretary Rumsfeld on September 14th, 2003 -- "If we needed
> more troops on the ground in Iraq, we would supply them immediately, but my
> Staff Generals have not requested additional personnel." You mean where they
> are expecting to force American
> democracy down Iraqi throats?   Not every country in the world wants our
> exact form of government, especially with its many flaws in the checks and
> balances as the present administration has exposed.  After all, President
> Bush seeks and end to "Battle Pay/Hazardous Duty Pay" on October 1st, not
> Congress or the American people!.
> 
> >but what we will never know is what MIGHT have happened had the 
> >coalition
> >
> Lets see, the United States, Great Britain, and Australia?   Did anyone
> else volunteer to have the wool pulled over their eyes.
> 
> >NOT acted.
> >
> Please explain why the United States acted alone, with goose stepping
> precision as the world's only policeman.
> 
> >Saddam could have (again) gassed his own people,
> >
> Or he may not.....after all, if he gassed many more who would fight his wars
> and pump his (or Exxon's) oil fields?
> 
> >launched attacks against his neighbors,
> >
> Like Israel and Palestine, Northern Ireland, India and Pakistan, China and
> Tibet?
> 
> >A-Q might have launched attacks against Los Angeles, Sydney, Paris, 
> >Berlin,
> or who-knows where.
> >
> Maybe they wouldn't.....I only see "potential evidence" that both Osama bin
> Laden, and Saddam Hussein are alive.  After killing the sons Uday and Qusay,
> the people of Iraq wouldn't believe photographic evidence from the United
> States because of a  huge credibility gap.
> 
> >Next part yet to come
> >
> Bring 'Em On!   (oh, crap, that's George's line)
> 
> 73,    Todd      N0NCL    SOC  # 533
> Honorably Discharged United States Navy
> Vietnam Era Veteran 1-24-73 through 9-29-78
> 
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