[SOC] Iraq, the war, et al: Part 3 of 4

Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:20:01 -0500

Yes, the only thing we have to fear is the fear of being enprisoned for
indefinite periods of time, without indictment or conviction by the
Attorney-General and his gang of thugs.

73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Besemer (KG8L/4) [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [SOC] Iraq, the war, et al: Part 3 of 4

Just be thankful that we live in a country where we can have this debate
without fear of loosing our heads!

Mike
KG8L
STILL proudly serving:  USAF 1981 - ??
Desert Storm
Korea
Operation Enduring Freedom
Operation Iraqi Freedom

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
Behalf Of Todd Butler
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SOC] Iraq, the war, et al: Part 3 of 4

Mike Besemer (KG8L/4) wrote:

>It's easy to throw stones at our governments
>
Well, I've constantly heard enough "ultra conservative (and
unchallenged) hype and lies.  Therefore, I take it that "governments" is the
collection of countries duped by the untrustworthy leader of the most
powerful, compassionate conservative of the world?

>in light of events that have already occurred,
>
Please explain to all of us what "Mission Was Accomplished" back on May 1,
2003.  I still hear of soldiers dying, of long separations because of duty,
and (Quoting Secretary Rumsfeld on September 14th, 2003 -- "If we needed
more troops on the ground in Iraq, we would supply them immediately, but my
Staff Generals have not requested additional personnel." You mean where they
are expecting to force American
democracy down Iraqi throats?   Not every country in the world wants our
exact form of government, especially with its many flaws in the checks and
balances as the present administration has exposed.  After all, President
Bush seeks and end to "Battle Pay/Hazardous Duty Pay" on October 1st, not
Congress or the American people!.

>but what we will never know is what MIGHT have happened had the 
>coalition
>
Lets see, the United States, Great Britain, and Australia?   Did anyone
else volunteer to have the wool pulled over their eyes.

>NOT acted.
>
Please explain why the United States acted alone, with goose stepping
precision as the world's only policeman.

>Saddam could have (again) gassed his own people,
>
Or he may not.....after all, if he gassed many more who would fight his wars
and pump his (or Exxon's) oil fields?

>launched attacks against his neighbors,
>
Like Israel and Palestine, Northern Ireland, India and Pakistan, China and
Tibet?

>A-Q might have launched attacks against Los Angeles, Sydney, Paris, 
>Berlin,
or who-knows where.
>
Maybe they wouldn't.....I only see "potential evidence" that both Osama bin
Laden, and Saddam Hussein are alive.  After killing the sons Uday and Qusay,
the people of Iraq wouldn't believe photographic evidence from the United
States because of a  huge credibility gap.

>Next part yet to come
>
Bring 'Em On!   (oh, crap, that's George's line)

73,    Todd      N0NCL    SOC  # 533
Honorably Discharged United States Navy
Vietnam Era Veteran 1-24-73 through 9-29-78

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