This really is the best webgroup on the net. You can talk about anything here. It's a pity that SOC is not a global phenomenon, or we could put most of the ills of the world to bed by lining up the SOCs of two belligerent countries and letting them loose on each other with piss-taking, mild flaming, political uncorrectness and constructive sarcasm. Chris le RosBeef, G4PDJ