[Skywarn] New to skywarn

Jerry Cooley jcooley at tatitlek.com
Thu Jul 9 15:38:41 EDT 2015 

Sorry to stir up so much trouble here by merely trying to discuss alternative methods of communication.

Please remove me from this list. I obviously have nothing to contribute.



From: John Griffith [mailto:carolinajohn63 at icloud.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:16 PM
To: K0RVB
Cc: sspence at green-trust.org; Jerry Cooley; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

This last email is the reason I participate very little.   If people wish to discuss until Jesus returns..so what?  If you do not like it....ignore it.....no reason to come off like a pompous person.  And you answered it yourself.......YOU SUBSCRIBED....and have tha ability to unsubscribe.

On Jul 09, 2015, at 03:13 PM, K0RVB <k0rvb.tx at gmail.com<mailto:k0rvb.tx at gmail.com>> wrote:


Alright already!!!!Enough is enough!!All of you have made your respective points! Stop driving this subject in the ground!! Leave it alone and let it die. I'm getting to the point where I'm sorry I subscribed to this.You've all made your points SO DROP IT!!


John Ralston - KØRVB
NWS Certified SkyWarn Spotter
NCS Bexar County SkyWarn Net
CoCoRaHs
Ten Ten 763Ø3
OM 7626

-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org<mailto:sspence at green-trust.org>>
Date: 07/09/2015 11:00 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>
Cc: skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

DMR-MARC requires users of it's network to be hams, but DMR itself is
not HAM tied, it was designed for commercial use. Other networks do
not have the HAM requirement, and non ham frequencies are supported by
DMR.

The DMR codec is proprietary, and a license fee is paid to Digital
Voice Systems, Inc. when a DMR radio is purchased. I don't have to pay
a license fee to a manufacturer in order to communicate on ham radio
frequencies, it's "open". I can build my own equipment if I choose. I
can't build a DMR radio without paying a $100,000 + license fee.

I'm not paying a premium to play in their club. It's against the
openness spirit of Ham Radio.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>:


DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires
an amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's
probably really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't
ham radio either. Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.



Jerry Cooley,  WX6AAA
Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org<mailto:sspence at green-trust.org>>
Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I don't even consider DMR ham radio.

No interest.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>:

Kevin,

No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot
of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of
communication on a national basis for those who wished to
participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody
just calm down."



Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net<mailto:k.heyboer at verizon.net>>
Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>, 'Kc9zar'
<kc9zar at gmail.com<mailto:kc9zar at gmail.com>>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There is
no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and antennas
at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
operators.

The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
fix it.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Greetings from San Diego,

Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.


Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
Work: (760) 725 4020
Cell  : (760) 208 0191



-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Heyboer
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
radio call sign is W9NWS.

SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
with W9NWS.org<http://W9NWS.org> and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.

Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
trust me when I say these steps are important.

For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.

We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.

When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.

Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
quite impressive.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.

Thanks for the add.

Jerry - KC9ZAR
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