[Skywarn] New to skywarn

Greg Higgins gs.higgins at sbcglobal.net
Thu Jul 9 12:28:47 EDT 2015 

Skywarn is open to anybody using any type of communication method that the
local NWSO can receive. Just one reason you see NWS offices with 800 phone
numbers, Twitter, FaceBook and other social media outlets. Amateur radio
makes up a large percentage of reports and many offices do have amateur
radio operators and equipment but there is also CB and public safety radio
being utilized in some offices. When it comes to amateur radio, our office
(FW NWS) uses RF over vhf, uhf (through the use of repeaters), hf and has
used packet, APRS and WinLink. Some of our primary linked systems uses IRLP
and / or EchoLink and we also have D-Star and a DVAP. We have attempted to
use numerous communications means but our biggest obstacles are the lack of
spotters to actual make the reports at the county and local areas.

Greg Higgins  KB5GLV

-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry
Cooley
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 10:39 AM
To: Steve Spence; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires an
amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's probably
really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't ham radio either.
Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.



Jerry Cooley,  WX6AAA
Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org>
Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I don't even consider DMR ham radio.

No interest.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:

> Kevin,
>
> No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot of 
> cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of communication 
> on a national basis for those who wished to participate. As my 4 year 
> old grand daughter says....."everybody just calm down."
>
>
>
> Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
> The Tatitlek Corporation
> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
> Cell    : 760.208.0191
> Office: 760.275.4020
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>
> Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar'
> <kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  
> There is no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  
> Transceivers and antennas at weather service offices are donated, as 
> is the time of the volunteer operators.
>
> The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, 
> don't fix it.
>
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager http://www.cherokee-ares.net 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
> To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Greetings from San Diego,
>
> Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications 
> tool is DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network 
> of repeaters providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken 
> down to local, county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR 
> frequently as I run up and down the state of California and enjoy 
> staying in touch with friends via DMR repeaters. DMR repeaters host 
> numerous nets of various user interests. I don't know why SKYWARN couldn't
find time on DMR for a hosted net.
>
>
> Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229 Site Manager, Camp 
> Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
> GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation Building 2238 Room 123 
> Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
> Work: (760) 725 4020
> Cell  : (760) 208 0191
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Heyboer
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
> To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious 
> as to why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is 
> served by W9ICE and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the 
> frequency of 146.670 on a 39 repeater network with direct access to 
> the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose radio call sign is W9NWS.
>
> SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between 
> the NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and 
> coordinating with W9NWS.org and your local version of 
> ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although your repeater may soon be coordinated 
> in your name and call sign, SKYWARN groups and communications are 
> generally coordinated by a single entity with the knowledge and 
> consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your WSFO. The term
SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.
>
> Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater 
> due to propagation and other considerations.  However, having served 
> for 20 years in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two 
> different WSFO's, 3 different WCM's, and two different Emergency 
> Communications Groups, please trust me when I say these steps are
important.
>
> For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 
> of the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked 
> repeater network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all 
> report directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to 
> the trustee of that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.
>
> We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO 
> Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia, 
> including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky
Mountains.
> The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE 
> Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access 
> there, nor is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  
> Internet access for Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during
storms.
>
> When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the 
> position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, 
> I had to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at 
> Morristown, and the SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far 
> as Tennessee is concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for 
> SKYWARN, but North Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager 
> because we are in a different ARRL section.  It took almost six months 
> to get all the approvals, but we are officially listed and recognized by
both the NWS and ARES.
>
> Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on 
> QRZ, quite impressive.
>
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager http://www.cherokee-ares.net 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Kc9zar
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Hello to the group!
> My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a 
> local 70cm repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.
>
> Thanks for the add.
>
> Jerry - KC9ZAR
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