[Skywarn] Skywarn Digest, Vol 57, Issue 8

Kenton A. Hoover kenton at nemersonhoover.org
Wed May 21 12:34:26 EDT 2014


Note that no adhesive will bind PVC to HDPE -- you have to mechanically fasten it. However, the cement will hold it once hardened.

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On 21 May 2014 at 07.:14.09, Jason Martin (jj91986 at gmail.com) wrote:

Bradly you can use 5 gallon bucket cement the pvc in the bucket the pour  
cement inside of the pvc for my stability  
On May 21, 2014 9:09 AM, <skywarn-request at mailman.qth.net> wrote:  

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> Message: 1  
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 11:51:26 -0600  
> From: "Bradly L. McGarr" <brad at mcgarr.us>  
> To: <skywarn at mailman.qth.net>  
> Subject: [Skywarn] Need Ideas for Mounting Weather Station  
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>  
> I'm trying to figure out the best way to mount my weather station  
> since moving into a new apartment, and I figure this group of people  
> would be a good resource just for that.  
>  
> It's not a high end weather  
> station, and it has brackets to mount to a pole. We have a third-floor  
> apartment with a balcony that has no overhead obstructions. The  
> challenge is, I can't mount anything to the physical structure. I could  
> potentially do a segment of metal fence pole or something similar, held  
> in a bucket of dirt or hardened cement, but I'm concerned about  
> creating, more or less, lightning rod on the balcony with no reasonable  
> way to ground it.  
>  
> Anyone have any experience using PVC or hard plastic  
> piping in a weather station setup, or, experience with a portable or  
> non-permanent setup?  
>  
> --  
> BRADLY L. MCGARR  
>  
>  
>  
> A friendly reminder:  
>  
> Stay safe in Severe Weather! Know the rules!  
> - Turn around, don't drown! Just a couple of inches can float a passenger  
> car,  
> and standing water hides sinkholes.  
> - When thunder roars, go indoors! Move to a safe location when you hear  
> thunder... if you can hear it, you can be struck by lightning.  
> - Watches and Warnings - Know The Difference! Watch indicates a potential  
> for  
> danger, be on guard. A warning means danger is imminent, and you should  
> seek  
> shelter immediately.  
> - Carry a NOAA All-Hazards Radio! Get severe weather alerts the moment  
> they're  
> issued.  
>  
> MORE INFO ONLINE:  
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> ------------------------------  
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> Message: 2  
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 13:41:16 -0500  
> From: Jay Cafasso <jay.cafasso at gmail.com>  
> To: "Bradly L. McGarr" <brad at mcgarr.us>  
> Cc: skywarn at mailman.qth.net  
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] Need Ideas for Mounting Weather Station  
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> Broadly, Try a five gallon pail filled with quick drying cement. Place the  
> pole in the center of the mix and let it dry... That should do it...  
>  
> Jay Cafasso  
> 12559 N400E  
> Wheatfield, IN 46392 USA  
> Cell: 479.866.9579 Fax: 651-691-2608  
> Home GPS - Lat 41.19509, Long -86.96737  
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> David Prevatt's Wind Hazards  
> http://windhazard.davidoprevatt.com/blog/  
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> "The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the  
> wrong reason." Murder in the Cathedral - St. Thomas Becket.  
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> On May 20, 2014 12:54 PM, "Bradly L. McGarr" <brad at mcgarr.us> wrote:  
>  
> >  
> >  
> > I'm trying to figure out the best way to mount my weather station  
> > since moving into a new apartment, and I figure this group of people  
> > would be a good resource just for that.  
> >  
> > It's not a high end weather  
> > station, and it has brackets to mount to a pole. We have a third-floor  
> > apartment with a balcony that has no overhead obstructions. The  
> > challenge is, I can't mount anything to the physical structure. I could  
> > potentially do a segment of metal fence pole or something similar, held  
> > in a bucket of dirt or hardened cement, but I'm concerned about  
> > creating, more or less, lightning rod on the balcony with no reasonable  
> > way to ground it.  
> >  
> > Anyone have any experience using PVC or hard plastic  
> > piping in a weather station setup, or, experience with a portable or  
> > non-permanent setup?  
> >  
> > --  
> > BRADLY L. MCGARR  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > A friendly reminder:  
> >  
> > Stay safe in Severe Weather! Know the rules!  
> > - Turn around, don't drown! Just a couple of inches can float a passenger  
> > car,  
> > and standing water hides sinkholes.  
> > - When thunder roars, go indoors! Move to a safe location when you hear  
> > thunder... if you can hear it, you can be struck by lightning.  
> > - Watches and Warnings - Know The Difference! Watch indicates a potential  
> > for  
> > danger, be on guard. A warning means danger is imminent, and you should  
> > seek  
> > shelter immediately.  
> > - Carry a NOAA All-Hazards Radio! Get severe weather alerts the moment  
> > they're  
> > issued.  
> >  
> > MORE INFO ONLINE:  
> > http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/  
> > http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/severeweather/index.shtml  
> > http://www.nws.noaa.gov/safety.php  
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> Message: 3  
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 12:50:14 -0600  
> From: "Bradly L. McGarr" <brad at mcgarr.us>  
> To: Jay Cafasso <jay.cafasso at gmail.com>  
> Cc: skywarn at mailman.qth.net  
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] Need Ideas for Mounting Weather Station [SPF  
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> Jay,  
>  
> Thanks! That's what I was thinking, so as far as a ballast source I have a  
> good idea. Challenge us how to not make it a lightning rod. A metal fence  
> pole would be strongest, but would really need to be grounded. PVC or hard  
> plastic could work but I'm concerned about stability.  
> - --  
> Bradly L. McGarr  
> Englewood, CO  
>  
> Microsoft Certified Professional  
> MTA Windows OS  
> CompTIA A+ Certified Technician  
> CIW Web Foundations Associate  
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> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.  
>  
> On May 20, 2014 12:41:16 PM MDT, Jay Cafasso <jay.cafasso at gmail.com>  
> wrote:  
> >Broadly, Try a five gallon pail filled with quick drying cement. Place  
> >the  
> >pole in the center of the mix and let it dry... That should do it...  
> >  
> >Jay Cafasso  
> >12559 N400E  
> >Wheatfield, IN 46392 USA  
> >Cell: 479.866.9579 Fax: 651-691-2608  
> >Home GPS - Lat 41.19509, Long -86.96737  
> >  
> >www.facebook.com/jay.cafasso.7  
> >http://robinstorm/blogspot.com - A WRN Ambassador  
> >  
> >WRN SVR WX Info Sheets  
> >http://www.ncddc.noaa.gov/activities/weather-ready-nation/newis/  
> >  
> >David Prevatt's Wind Hazards  
> >http://windhazard.davidoprevatt.com/blog/  
> >  
> >"The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for  
> >the  
> >wrong reason." Murder in the Cathedral - St. Thomas Becket.  
> >  
> >Skywarn? and the Skywarn? logo are registered trademarks of the  
> >National  
> >Weather Service "used with permission".  
> >On May 20, 2014 12:54 PM, "Bradly L. McGarr" <brad at mcgarr.us> wrote:  
> >  
> >>  
> >>  
> >> I'm trying to figure out the best way to mount my weather station  
> >> since moving into a new apartment, and I figure this group of people  
> >> would be a good resource just for that.  
> >>  
> >> It's not a high end weather  
> >> station, and it has brackets to mount to a pole. We have a  
> >third-floor  
> >> apartment with a balcony that has no overhead obstructions. The  
> >> challenge is, I can't mount anything to the physical structure. I  
> >could  
> >> potentially do a segment of metal fence pole or something similar,  
> >held  
> >> in a bucket of dirt or hardened cement, but I'm concerned about  
> >> creating, more or less, lightning rod on the balcony with no  
> >reasonable  
> >> way to ground it.  
> >>  
> >> Anyone have any experience using PVC or hard plastic  
> >> piping in a weather station setup, or, experience with a portable or  
> >> non-permanent setup?  
> >>  
> >> --  
> >> BRADLY L. MCGARR  
> >>  
> >>  
> >>  
> >> A friendly reminder:  
> >>  
> >> Stay safe in Severe Weather! Know the rules!  
> >> - Turn around, don't drown! Just a couple of inches can float a  
> >passenger  
> >> car,  
> >> and standing water hides sinkholes.  
> >> - When thunder roars, go indoors! Move to a safe location when you  
> >hear  
> >> thunder... if you can hear it, you can be struck by lightning.  
> >> - Watches and Warnings - Know The Difference! Watch indicates a  
> >potential  
> >> for  
> >> danger, be on guard. A warning means danger is imminent, and you  
> >should  
> >> seek  
> >> shelter immediately.  
> >> - Carry a NOAA All-Hazards Radio! Get severe weather alerts the  
> >moment  
> >> they're  
> >> issued.  
> >>  
> >> MORE INFO ONLINE:  
> >> http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/  
> >> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/severeweather/index.shtml  
> >> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/safety.php  
> >> ______________________________________________________________  
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>  
>  
>  
> A friendly reminder:  
>  
> Stay safe in Severe Weather! Know the rules!  
> - Turn around, don't drown! Just a couple of inches can float a passenger  
> car,  
> and standing water hides sinkholes.  
> - When thunder roars, go indoors! Move to a safe location when you hear  
> thunder... if you can hear it, you can be struck by lightning.  
> - Watches and Warnings - Know The Difference! Watch indicates a potential  
> for  
> danger, be on guard. A warning means danger is imminent, and you should  
> seek  
> shelter immediately.  
> - Carry a NOAA All-Hazards Radio! Get severe weather alerts the moment  
> they're  
> issued.  
>  
> MORE INFO ONLINE:  
> http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/  
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/severeweather/index.shtml  
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/safety.php  
>  
> ------------------------------  
>  
> Message: 4  
> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:20:10 -0400  
> From: "Kevin Heyboer" <k.heyboer at verizon.net>  
> To: "'Bradly L. McGarr'" <brad at mcgarr.us>, <skywarn at mailman.qth.net>  
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] Need Ideas for Mounting Weather Station  
> Message-ID: <C2D37AA07F2842FB90D05C0AAB5882EB at MANDI>  
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII  
>  
> If your weather station is wireless and can connect to computer, I would  
> convince the owners of the building to put it on the roof (assuming it  
> would  
> still be in range) and offer to feed the weather information to the  
> building  
> residents via a web link such as CWOP or your own personal website.  
>  
> Although I wish you success in your efforts and admire your zeal, you will  
> never be able to get a true wind reading on a balcony. If the wind is  
> running across your balcony, you will get a wind tunnel effect, and if the  
> wind is coming from the opposite side of the building, you may get little  
> or  
> no wind on your balcony despite heavy winds hitting the building on the  
> opposite side.  
>  
> Of course, if you are just trying to get valid temperature, barometer, and  
> humidity, then you only need place the sending unit where it will be in the  
> shade.  
>  
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR  
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES  
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager  
> http://www.cherokee-ares.net  
> -----Original Message-----  
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bradly  
> L. McGarr  
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:51 PM  
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net  
> Subject: [Skywarn] Need Ideas for Mounting Weather Station  
>  
>  
>  
> I'm trying to figure out the best way to mount my weather station  
> since moving into a new apartment, and I figure this group of people  
> would be a good resource just for that.  
>  
> It's not a high end weather  
> station, and it has brackets to mount to a pole. We have a third-floor  
> apartment with a balcony that has no overhead obstructions. The  
> challenge is, I can't mount anything to the physical structure. I could  
> potentially do a segment of metal fence pole or something similar, held  
> in a bucket of dirt or hardened cement, but I'm concerned about  
> creating, more or less, lightning rod on the balcony with no reasonable  
> way to ground it.  
>  
> Anyone have any experience using PVC or hard plastic  
> piping in a weather station setup, or, experience with a portable or  
> non-permanent setup?  
>  
> --  
> BRADLY L. MCGARR  
>  
>  
>  
> A friendly reminder:  
>  
> Stay safe in Severe Weather! Know the rules!  
> - Turn around, don't drown! Just a couple of inches can float a passenger  
> car,  
> and standing water hides sinkholes.  
> - When thunder roars, go indoors! Move to a safe location when you hear  
> thunder... if you can hear it, you can be struck by lightning.  
> - Watches and Warnings - Know The Difference! Watch indicates a potential  
> for  
> danger, be on guard. A warning means danger is imminent, and you should  
> seek  
> shelter immediately.  
> - Carry a NOAA All-Hazards Radio! Get severe weather alerts the moment  
> they're  
> issued.  
>  
> MORE INFO ONLINE:  
> http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/  
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/severeweather/index.shtml  
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/safety.php  
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> Message: 5  
> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:07:49 +0000  
> From: "Taylor, Dean" <Dean.Taylor at asurion.com>  
> To: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>, "'Bradly L. McGarr'"  
> <brad at mcgarr.us>, "skywarn at mailman.qth.net" <  
> skywarn at mailman.qth.net>  
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] Need Ideas for Mounting Weather Station  
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> Use wire ties or large hose clamps to secure your pole y o the balcony  
> posts. Plastic tubing could wobble if you are going to mount a wind gauge.  
>  
>  
> Dean Taylor  
> Manager  
> Asurion Global Safety  
> And Loss Control  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone  
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>  
> -------- Original message --------  
> From: Kevin Heyboer  
> Date:05/21/2014 7:20 AM (GMT-06:00)  
> To: "'Bradly L. McGarr'" ,skywarn at mailman.qth.net  
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] Need Ideas for Mounting Weather Station  
>  
> If your weather station is wireless and can connect to computer, I would  
> convince the owners of the building to put it on the roof (assuming it  
> would  
> still be in range) and offer to feed the weather information to the  
> building  
> residents via a web link such as CWOP or your own personal website.  
>  
> Although I wish you success in your efforts and admire your zeal, you will  
> never be able to get a true wind reading on a balcony. If the wind is  
> running across your balcony, you will get a wind tunnel effect, and if the  
> wind is coming from the opposite side of the building, you may get little  
> or  
> no wind on your balcony despite heavy winds hitting the building on the  
> opposite side.  
>  
> Of course, if you are just trying to get valid temperature, barometer, and  
> humidity, then you only need place the sending unit where it will be in the  
> shade.  
>  
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR  
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES  
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager  
> http://www.cherokee-ares.net  
> -----Original Message-----  
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bradly  
> L. McGarr  
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:51 PM  
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net  
> Subject: [Skywarn] Need Ideas for Mounting Weather Station  
>  
>  
>  
> I'm trying to figure out the best way to mount my weather station  
> since moving into a new apartment, and I figure this group of people  
> would be a good resource just for that.  
>  
> It's not a high end weather  
> station, and it has brackets to mount to a pole. We have a third-floor  
> apartment with a balcony that has no overhead obstructions. The  
> challenge is, I can't mount anything to the physical structure. I could  
> potentially do a segment of metal fence pole or something similar, held  
> in a bucket of dirt or hardened cement, but I'm concerned about  
> creating, more or less, lightning rod on the balcony with no reasonable  
> way to ground it.  
>  
> Anyone have any experience using PVC or hard plastic  
> piping in a weather station setup, or, experience with a portable or  
> non-permanent setup?  
>  
> --  
> BRADLY L. MCGARR  
>  
>  
>  
> A friendly reminder:  
>  
> Stay safe in Severe Weather! Know the rules!  
> - Turn around, don't drown! Just a couple of inches can float a passenger  
> car,  
> and standing water hides sinkholes.  
> - When thunder roars, go indoors! Move to a safe location when you hear  
> thunder... if you can hear it, you can be struck by lightning.  
> - Watches and Warnings - Know The Difference! Watch indicates a potential  
> for  
> danger, be on guard. A warning means danger is imminent, and you should  
> seek  
> shelter immediately.  
> - Carry a NOAA All-Hazards Radio! Get severe weather alerts the moment  
> they're  
> issued.  
>  
> MORE INFO ONLINE:  
> http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/  
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/severeweather/index.shtml  
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/safety.php  
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