[SJRA-Members] SJRA-Members Digest, Vol 86, Issue 6
REM
remalo1230 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 13 22:04:51 EST 2020
JOHN,
I JUST GAVE YOU CASH $ 50.00 FOR DONATION OF ANTENNA ANALYZER
ON THE DAY WE HAVE CLUB MEETING THIS MONTH. (FEB.)
SEE YOU THERE.THANKS-73's
RIZ -KH7JO
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> 1. Re: Go Fund Me Link to help purchase an antenna analyzer for
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> 2. Re: Go Fund Me Link to help purchase an antenna analyzer for
> club members (Bob Beyer)
> 3. I created a little confusion. I apologize for that and would
> like to clarify (John Jones)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:47:48 -0500
> From: John Jones <jdjones3109 at gmail.com>
> To: Bob Beyer <bob_beyer at verizon.net>, sjra-members at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [SJRA-Members] Go Fund Me Link to help purchase an
> antenna analyzer for club members
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> I was thinking that I'd send a Doodle Poll out to everyone who contributes
> with a couple of options in whatever is in our price range. I like some of
> the RigExpert units too but it depends on how much we raise and what tho
> majority of those who contribute choose. Whatever we end up getting will
> be better than the one that I've been using which is nothing. :)
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:19 PM Bob Beyer <bob_beyer at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > The MFJ units have been around for years but in my opinion are woefully
> > outdated.
> > They are also notably susceptible to interference from broadcast stations
> > because the signal they emit is not very comparatively weak.
> >
> > The Rig Expert graphical analyzers are much better and easy to learn and
> > use.
> >
> > The AA-55-Zoom model covers 60 KHz to 55 MHz.
> > It also interfaces to a PC with free software which greatly enhances its
> > capability.
> > You can save readings in standardized files for review later without the
> > need for the analyzer.
> >
> > I believe the MFJ units can read reactance but cannot indicate the sign
> of
> > the value so you don?t know if it?s capacitive or inductive.
> >
> > The Rig Expert not only determines the sign, it can also plot the data on
> > a Smith chart display. Additionally, it can do things like help you cut
> > tuned stubs and determine the velocity factor or length of a piece of
> coax.
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.gigaparts.com/rigexpert-aa-55-zoom-antenna-analyler-06-55mhz.html
> > <
> https://www.gigaparts.com/rigexpert-aa-55-zoom-antenna-analyler-06-55mhz.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvLjUktLP5wIVFKSzCh27UwkgEAQYASABEgLhcvD_BwE
> >
> >
> > If you reconsider and choose one of the Rig Expert models, I will
> > contribute. I have so little faith in the MFJ units that I can?t, in good
> > conscience, donate toward the purchase of one.
> >
> > Bob, KE2D
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 13, 2020, at 4:12 PM, John Jones <jdjones3109 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > At the last SJRA Monthly Breakfast, Rizal Malong KH7JO suggested that we
> > purchase an antenna analyzer for the club members to borrow when then
> need
> > to use one. I thought it was a good idea since they can be pretty
> expensive
> > and it's hard to justify paying so much for a piece of equipment that
> isn't
> > used frequently. The plan is to purchase an antenna analyzer (we're
> > looking at the MFJ-259C or the MFJ-269D). In addition to the analyzer,
> > we'll need to purchase rechargeable batteries, a charger, quick use
> guide,
> > and weatherproof case. The MFJ-259C with the accessories would be about
> > $400 and the MFJ-269D will be slightly more. Of course, there are higher
> > end antenna analyzers that cost more and we'll purchase one of those if
> we
> > receive enough funds to do so. I'd like to gift it to the club and let
> one
> > of the officers be responsible for signing it out at a meeting and
> ensuring
> > that it's returned in good order at the next meeting. If two or more
> people
> > want to sign it out at a meeting, the first person would be responsible
> for
> > using it quickly and then contacting the next person to arrange the hand
> > off. The last person to use it that month would then return it to the
> club
> > at the next meeting. If the club doesn't want this responsibility, Riz
> or
> > I will bring it to each meeting ourselves or find someone who will be
> > willing to do this for the club. This is not a solicitation by the club.
> > This is a couple of members like you who are doing something to benefit
> > every club member. If you'd like to contribute, it will be appreciated.
> 73,
> > John KD2RKA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.gofundme.com/f/antenna-analyzer-for-members-of-the-sjra?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1
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> > At the last SJRA Monthly Breakfast, Rizal Malong KH7JO suggested that we
> > purchase an antenna analyzer for the club members to borrow when then
> need
> > to use one. I thought it was a good idea since they can be pretty
> expensive
> > and it's hard to justify paying so much for a piece of equipment that
> isn't
> > used frequently. The plan is to purchase an antenna analyzer (we're
> > looking at the MFJ-259C or the MFJ-269D). In addition to the analyzer,
> > we'll need to purchase rechargeable batteries, a charger, quick use
> guide,
> > and weatherproof case. The MFJ-259C with the accessories would be about
> > $400 and the MFJ-269D will be slightly more. Of course, there are higher
> > end antenna analyzers that cost more and we'll purchase one of those if
> we
> > receive enough funds to do so. I'd like to gift it to the club and let
> one
> > of the officers be responsible for signing it out at a meeting and
> ensuring
> > that it's returned in good order at the next meeting. If two or more
> people
> > want to sign it out at a meeting, the first person would be responsible
> for
> > using it quickly and then contacting the next person to arrange the hand
> > off. The last person to use it that month would then return it to the
> club
> > at the next meeting. If the club doesn't want this responsibility, Riz
> or
> > I will bring it to each meeting ourselves or find someone who will be
> > willing to do this for the club. This is not a solicitation by the club.
> > This is a couple of members like you who are doing something to benefit
> > every club member. If you'd like to contribute, it will be appreciated.
> 73,
> > John KD2RKA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.gofundme.com/f/antenna-analyzer-for-members-of-the-sjra?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:43:56 -0500
> From: "Bob Beyer" <bob_beyer at verizon.net>
> To: "'John Jones'" <jdjones3109 at gmail.com>,
> <sjra-members at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [SJRA-Members] Go Fund Me Link to help purchase an
> antenna analyzer for club members
> Message-ID: <01a901d5e2cf$d7627800$86276800$@net>
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>
> I think the AA-55 Zoom is actually less than the MFJ-259C
>
> I do suggest you get a hard case for the meter as it will do a good job
> protecting it.
>
> I have one for mine.
>
>
>
> GigaParts has the meter for $274
>
>
> https://www.gigaparts.com/rigexpert-aa-55-zoom-antenna-analyler-06-55mhz.html
>
>
>
> And a good hard case for $60
>
> https://www.gigaparts.com/nanuk-910-case-w-foam-yellow.html
>
>
>
> The AA-55 Zoom covers up to 6m. If there was a lot of need for higher VHF
> and UHF bands, there are other models but they are more costly.
>
>
>
> Attached are some plots of my 160m inverted L antenna made with my AA-55
> Zoom while it was attached to my PC.
>
> These were all made from the same, single reading. Same data set, just
> different ways of analyzing and plotting the data points.
>
>
>
> Bob, KE2D
>
>
>
>
>
> From: John Jones [mailto:jdjones3109 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:48 PM
> To: Bob Beyer; sjra-members at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [SJRA-Members] Go Fund Me Link to help purchase an antenna
> analyzer for club members
>
>
>
> I was thinking that I'd send a Doodle Poll out to everyone who contributes
> with a couple of options in whatever is in our price range. I like some of
> the RigExpert units too but it depends on how much we raise and what tho
> majority of those who contribute choose. Whatever we end up getting will
> be better than the one that I've been using which is nothing. :)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:19 PM Bob Beyer <bob_beyer at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> The MFJ units have been around for years but in my opinion are woefully
> outdated.
>
> They are also notably susceptible to interference from broadcast stations
> because the signal they emit is not very comparatively weak.
>
>
>
> The Rig Expert graphical analyzers are much better and easy to learn and
> use.
>
>
>
> The AA-55-Zoom model covers 60 KHz to 55 MHz.
>
> It also interfaces to a PC with free software which greatly enhances its
> capability.
>
> You can save readings in standardized files for review later without the
> need for the analyzer.
>
>
>
> I believe the MFJ units can read reactance but cannot indicate the sign of
> the value so you don?t know if it?s capacitive or inductive.
>
>
>
> The Rig Expert not only determines the sign, it can also plot the data on
> a Smith chart display. Additionally, it can do things like help you cut
> tuned stubs and determine the velocity factor or length of a piece of coax.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.gigaparts.com/rigexpert-aa-55-zoom-antenna-analyler-06-55mhz.html
> <
> https://www.gigaparts.com/rigexpert-aa-55-zoom-antenna-analyler-06-55mhz.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvLjUktLP5wIVFKSzCh27UwkgEAQYASABEgLhcvD_BwE>
>
>
> If you reconsider and choose one of the Rig Expert models, I will
> contribute. I have so little faith in the MFJ units that I can?t, in good
> conscience, donate toward the purchase of one.
>
> Bob, KE2D
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 4:12 PM, John Jones <jdjones3109 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> At the last SJRA Monthly Breakfast, Rizal Malong KH7JO suggested that we
> purchase an antenna analyzer for the club members to borrow when then need
> to use one. I thought it was a good idea since they can be pretty expensive
> and it's hard to justify paying so much for a piece of equipment that isn't
> used frequently. The plan is to purchase an antenna analyzer (we're
> looking at the MFJ-259C or the MFJ-269D). In addition to the analyzer,
> we'll need to purchase rechargeable batteries, a charger, quick use guide,
> and weatherproof case. The MFJ-259C with the accessories would be about
> $400 and the MFJ-269D will be slightly more. Of course, there are higher
> end antenna analyzers that cost more and we'll purchase one of those if we
> receive enough funds to do so. I'd like to gift it to the club and let one
> of the officers be responsible for signing it out at a meeting and ensuring
> that it's returned in good order at the next meeting. If two or more people
> want to sign it out at a meeting, the first person would be responsible for
> using it quickly and then contacting the next person to arrange the hand
> off. The last person to use it that month would then return it to the club
> at the next meeting. If the club doesn't want this responsibility, Riz or
> I will bring it to each meeting ourselves or find someone who will be
> willing to do this for the club. This is not a solicitation by the club.
> This is a couple of members like you who are doing something to benefit
> every club member. If you'd like to contribute, it will be appreciated. 73,
> John KD2RKA
>
>
>
> https://www.gofundme.com/f/antenna-analyzer-for-members-of-the-sjra?utm_source=customer
> <
> https://www.gofundme.com/f/antenna-analyzer-for-members-of-the-sjra?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1>
> &utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1
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> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to bob_beyer at verizon.net
> At the last SJRA Monthly Breakfast, Rizal Malong KH7JO suggested that we
> purchase an antenna analyzer for the club members to borrow when then need
> to use one. I thought it was a good idea since they can be pretty expensive
> and it's hard to justify paying so much for a piece of equipment that isn't
> used frequently. The plan is to purchase an antenna analyzer (we're
> looking at the MFJ-259C or the MFJ-269D). In addition to the analyzer,
> we'll need to purchase rechargeable batteries, a charger, quick use guide,
> and weatherproof case. The MFJ-259C with the accessories would be about
> $400 and the MFJ-269D will be slightly more. Of course, there are higher
> end antenna analyzers that cost more and we'll purchase one of those if we
> receive enough funds to do so. I'd like to gift it to the club and let one
> of the officers be responsible for signing it out at a meeting and ensuring
> that it's returned in good order at the next meeting. If two or more people
> want to sign it out at a meeting, the first person would be responsible for
> using it quickly and then contacting the next person to arrange the hand
> off. The last person to use it that month would then return it to the club
> at the next meeting. If the club doesn't want this responsibility, Riz or
> I will bring it to each meeting ourselves or find someone who will be
> willing to do this for the club. This is not a solicitation by the club.
> This is a couple of members like you who are doing something to benefit
> every club member. If you'd like to contribute, it will be appreciated. 73,
> John KD2RKA
>
>
>
> https://www.gofundme.com/f/antenna-analyzer-for-members-of-the-sjra?utm_source=customer
> <
> https://www.gofundme.com/f/antenna-analyzer-for-members-of-the-sjra?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1>
> &utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:51:17 -0500
> From: John Jones <jdjones3109 at gmail.com>
> To: sjra-members at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: John Jones <jdjones3109 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [SJRA-Members] I created a little confusion. I apologize for
> that and would like to clarify
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> The wording of my previous email gave some the impression that the
> "Purchase an Antenna Analyzer" drive was a club sponsored initiative. It is
> not and no club member is obligated to participate in any way. I apologize
> for any confusion this caused.
>
> The title and description of the Go Fund Me page
> <https://www.gofundme.com/manage/antenna-analyzer-for-members-of-the-sjra>
> that I created have both been changed to the following to make this clear:
>
> Antenna Analyzer Donation Page
> <https://www.gofundme.com/manage/antenna-analyzer-for-members-of-the-sjra>
> Last Saturday at breakfast, Rizal Malong KH7JO suggested that a bunch of
> us pool our resources and purchase an antenna analyzer to share when anyone
> needs one. I thought it was a good idea since they can be pretty expensive
> and it's hard to justify paying so much for a piece of equipment that isn't
> used frequently. The plan is to purchase an antenna analyzer (we're
> looking at MFJ's and RigExperts units and several others). In addition to
> the analyzer, we'll need to purchase rechargeable batteries, a charger,
> quick use guide, and weatherproof case. To give you an idea of the cost,
> the MFJ-259C with the accessories would be about $400. Of course, there
> are higher end antenna analyzers that cost more and we'll purchase one of
> those if we receive enough funds to do so. I was thinking I could send
> out a Doodle Poll to everyone who chips in and let them choose from several
> different units in our price range. If you'd like to contribute to this
> effort, any amount will be appreciated. 73, John KD2RKA
>
>
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