[SixClub] 6 meter repeater PL tones

Wed Apr 21 18:27:51 EDT 2010

On 4/21/2010 3:18 PM, KB0NLY wrote:
> I've heard that said also... But in theory if everything else is ok that
> shouldn't be a problem.  Unless, and this is a big unless, you happen to be
> a reverse of another repeater and the band opens up.  I have heard that
> happen on 10m repeaters before but its not very common for all the
> conditions to be just right.
>
> Either way, the user doesn't have to use PL on receive if they don't want to
> so in the end its up to the users if they want to make use of it.  You
> wouldn't believe how many people think if you put a PL on the repeater
> transmit that others won't be able to listen unless they program in the PL
> Decode, uhh yeah just go CSQ... LOL
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Richard J. Fiero II  W5TFW"<joeyw5tfw at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:14 PM
> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club"<sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [SixClub] 6 meter repeater PL tones
>
>    
>> OK,
>>
>> I'll go there I was  trying to stay OUT of this,.... but here is the
>> arguement I was given,
>>
>> it seems there are some that believe that the PL tone,.. ( on 6
>> meters )....
>> if they are both the same for ENCODE&  DECODE,...... tend to PING / pong
>> each other !
>>
>>   I do NOT know this to be the case,....... but thats the way it was
>> explained to me..........
>>
>> I am FAR from an expert, ( more like a  gossip than a  TECH,. ) but thats
>> the way I have heard it,   I dont run a pl on both sides, on mine,.....
>> and
>> have never tried it at all.
>> So I do not know this to be the case at all.
>>
>>
>>                                   Joey
>>
>>
>>                                                       A.R.S. W5TFW
>>                                                       Richard J. Fiero II
>>
>>                                                       www.6mt.com
>>                                                       www.w5tfw.com
>>
>> LIFE'S   TOUGH !
>>
>> It's even tougher, if you are STUPID !
>>
>>                                           John Wayne
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Karl J. Zuk"<karlzuk at hotmail.com>
>> To:<sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SixClub] 6 meter repeater PL tones
>>
>>
>>
>> My Icom IC-T7H HT (2m/440) can do separate PLs for transmit and receive.
>> It doesn't make sense to require a second different PL frequency on the
>> receive side since few receivers require a PL to open up unless you
>> configure your receiver to require that. I more than agree. Why would you
>> want to do that?  Karl Zuk  N2KZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      
>>> From: Cboone at earthlink.net
>>> To: sixclub at mailman.qth.net
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:50:06 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [SixClub] 6 meter repeater PL tones
>>>
>>> IF there IS a 6mrrptr doing cross tone operation, they need to have a
>>> reality check....it makes NO sense to xmit a different tone than they
>>> require for access (unless it’s a closed rptr in S CA...then anything
>>> goes
>>> there!<G>  )
>>>
>>> My THF6 HT can do xmit tone(T) or a different receive tone (CT) but I
>>> think the transmit tone follows any selected receive CTCSS.....
>>> Other than that, I too donot know of a ham rig that can do cross
>>> tone....(and again, WHY???)
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> WB5ITT
>>>
>>>        
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> If you have a 6m repeater using split tones then the best you can do is
>>>> to
>>>> program the transmit tone required so you can at least use the
>>>> repeater.
>>>> Although it is much nicer in my opinion to have tone squelch down at
>>>> these
>>>> frequencies to keep the noise out, but if you don't have the ability
>>>> there
>>>> isn't much you can do.
>>>>
>>>> Your only other option is to buy a commercial radio and convert it to
>>>> the
>>>> ham band, or for some models just program it.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Scott KB0NLY
>>>>          
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There is also the possibility that both tones are decoded at the 
repeater and 1 tone would just repeat and the other tone when received 
by the repeater would open a link to another repeater for wider coverage 
or cross band repeating.
Eric N7XCF.