[SixClub] 6 meter repeater PL tones

Wed Apr 21 09:13:55 EDT 2010

Boy I wish we had the ability to leave off PL around here...  No PL equals 
tied up repeater from interference.  The band is too crowded, we had to shut 
down a VHF repeater and replace it with a UHF after fighting interference 
problems despite being coordinated, the battle just wasn’t worth it anymore. 
Likewise being mobile if you don't have tone squelch on all you hear is 
interference, despite how good the receiver and intermod rejection is, for 
some reason the local gas station and a few other business's generate 
interference when your by them or parked nearby.  The only gas station 
generates a nice S9+ signal on a frequency I have in memory, and its only 
that one memory, so I don't know if its mixing, a harmonic, or whats going 
on.

None of the radios I have owned have the split tone option I know that, 
FT8900, FT8800, FT7800, VX150, VX7R, FT60R, FT847, FT2800, FT2400, FT2500... 
Yep a Yaesu fan here... LOL

Scott

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From: "Roger (K8RI)" <50MHz at rogerhalstead.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:54 AM
To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [SixClub] 6 meter repeater PL tones

>
>
> KB0NLY wrote:
>> I haven't seen any Amateur gear from Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, that allows
>> different tones for transmit and receive.
> TMD-700 and 710 both will run separate tones IIRC.  I don't remember
> about the TMV7A as I never tried it.
>>  This is more of a commercial
>> requirement.  Just about any programmable commercial LMR gear will 
>> support
>> the separate tone requirement.  I don't know why the Amateur gear
>> manufacturers never followed suit, probably to make it less complicated
>> perhaps, and the fact that most repeaters in the Amateur service don't 
>> use
>> this ability.
>>
> I'd bet most of the new duoband rigs do, but I don't know about HTs and
> 6-meter rigs. "I think" the Icom 7000 also allows for separate tones,
> I'd have to look at the Yaesu 897D manual. I need to get the CW fixed
> (Makes dits, but no dahs ) on my 897D as it's going out the door so I
> can get one of the new Icom 9100's when they become available. I like
> the looks of it.  I definitely do not like the Icom 7000 or the Yaesu
> 897D.  Too many functions and too few knobs and I say that after many
> years of using the 756 Pro. I like the layout of the new Kenwood mobile
> which also covers six but they should have gone 160 through 40 like Icom
> and Yaesu.
>> If you have a 6m repeater using split tones then the best you can do is 
>> to
>> program the transmit tone required so you can at least use the repeater.
>> Although it is much nicer in my opinion to have tone squelch down at 
>> these
>> frequencies to keep the noise out, but if you don't have the ability 
>> there
>> isn't much you can do.
>>
> I've only found a few instances where I even turned on the receive tone.
> I normally leave it off even on two meters just in case some one tries
> to get into the system without tone and transmits on the output thinking
> the system might be down. (Not an uncommon occurrence). Unless the band
> is open and I am hearing other repeaters I do not use tone.
>
> We don't even use tone on the 2-meter local receiver unless the band is
> open. The link receiver has it on all the time.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>> Your only other option is to buy a commercial radio and convert it to the
>> ham band, or for some models just program it.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Scott KB0NLY
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Barry Sherwood" <ars.kf5gc at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:33 AM
>> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SixClub] 6 meter repeater PL tones
>>
>>
>>> I do not know about the FT-8900 but my Icom LMR software lets you
>>> program separate tones for tx and rx as well as the Kenwood LMR
>>> software.
>>>
>>> Barry
>>> KF5GC
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 08:31 +0000, nn1f at comcast.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am using the FT-8900 and it does not seem to have more than one tone. 
>>>> I
>>>> will try again.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Aron
>>>>
>>>> NN1F
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Gabriel Sierra" <g_moonrec at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:10:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>>> Subject: Re: [SixClub] 6 meter repeater PL tones
>>>>
>>>> Some radios make distinction between CTSS and RPT tones, being CTSS for
>>>> reception and RPT for repeater access. You have to check you radio's
>>>> manual, as there are some old radios that only use the same tone for 
>>>> both
>>>> receiving and transmitting.
>>>>
>>>> 73!
>>>>
>>>> Gabriel Sierra , WP3BM
>>>> Bike Tourist Podcast
>>>> http://biketourist.podomatic.com (English)
>>>> http://biketouristesp.podomatic.com (Español)
>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 4/16/10, nn1f at comcast.net <nn1f at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: nn1f at comcast.net <nn1f at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: [SixClub] 6 meter repeater PL tones
>>>> To: sixclub at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 2:47 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a question regarding the PL tones in some repeaters here in the 
>>>> NH
>>>> area.
>>>>
>>>> I see that there are listed two tone frequencies, I presume one for the
>>>> input and one for the output.
>>>>
>>>> How do I enter both of the PL tones into the memory?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Aron
>>>>
>>>> NN1F
>>>>
>>>> Bedford, NH
>>>>
>>>>
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