[SixClub] Forum topics

Sun May 10 01:07:35 EDT 2009

I was talking about the X9000; I merely use the Syntor name as a shortened
typing.....N5STK down the street has two of them.....I checked them on my
R2670 service monitor....BUT the parts are hard to find, programming
software is NOT in the public domain and is illegal to have if you don't
have the license from Mother M, etc..Also understand about the need for
DOS/Win98 machine for the RSS. Of course these days, I run Astro P25 RSS for
my Spectra Astros and the Quantar P25 repeaters I have on Windows XP but
have had my issues with Motorola, Midland and others software, etc (one of
the Quantars is on my 444.5 freq :) System 90 is the head with multilayer of
buttons and different personalities (Like the GE S825 head on the Delta S/SX
and Rangers)....and allows some change up in the channel config etc. MUCH
more than a standard head...but I still say the Midlands beat them hands
down...Tested Syntor X9000 and Midland 70-0526 on 6mtrs...the Midland could
hear farther and better than the Mother M...Noise Blanker in the Midlands
beats ANYTHING I have worked on in 35+ yrs of Mother M (the MICORs on LB
were the WORST with their Extenders...always broke into oscillation and
overloaded the main channel...GE MASTR II or Midland on same antenna?? Not
an issue)

-----Original Message-----
From: sixclub-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:sixclub-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of KB0NLY
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 11:48 PM
To: World Wide Six Meter Club
Subject: Re: [SixClub] Forum topics

Chris,

He was asking about the Syntor X9000, totally different beast...

The X9000 is RIB and RSS programmings, not a Sys 90 system, and not a memory

module.  However, there is plenty of aftermarket software that other 
enterprising folks designed for programming the EEprom in the Syntor X.

As a matter of fact i have a UHF repeater here that i help maintain that i 
built from a pair of Syntor X's, just pull the memory module, open it, pull 
EEprom and erase and burn a new image to using my Willem programmer and toss

it back together and its on the air.  No fuss, just a little time tinkering.

I use a program i found on the net that a couple hams wrote to generate a 
.bin file with the frequency info, aka the codeplug, to burn to the EEprom.

I can program an X9K in about 10-20 minutes, just depends on how many 
channels, aka modes, that you want in the radio.  I can upgrade them from 32

to 64, or 128 modes as well just by swapping chips.

The programming cable for the X9K is a little tough to find as it uses a "T"

cable, its a passthrough connector that goes between the control cable and 
the radio.  I don't bother using that setup anymore and just add a pigtail 
with a DB9 to the control cable, that way all i need is a DB25 to DB9 cable 
from my RIB to program it.

However!!  The only drawback to the X9K and its software is needing an OLD 
and SLOW computer as it gets fussy when you get too fast.  Too fast being 
25Mhz or more!  My last programming laptop died and my "new" one running at 
50Mhz doesn't like to cooperate with the X9K all the time, but if i turn off

the Turbo and run it at 25Mhz i can usually get it to work unless i get a 
radio with old firmware and slow chips.  The later models had faster access 
times on the EEproms and they work marginally better, also the radio boots a

bit faster.

Anyway, i used to have a ton of X9K's and i'm pretty familiar with them.  At

one time i had a stack of lowband, vhf, and uhf in the mobile, along with 
another stack in the shack for vhf and uhf.

73,

Scott

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Boone" <Cboone at earthlink.net>
To: <doc at kd4e.com>; "'World Wide Six Meter Club'" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [SixClub] Forum topics

> Doc
> In answer to your questions below:
>
> The Syntor will cover 10 and 6 quite well and with NO problems; yes the
> parts will eventually start to get hard to replace...with the mutli System
> 90 head, you can have a lot of channels programmed...Never dealt with the
> Kenwood BUT it probably WONT cover 29-54 like the Motorola will...and both
> are limited to a max number of channels..
> HOWEVER, Motorola software to reprogram is a BEAR to get ahold of...a 
> friend
> of mine has two of them...and we have looked trying to find someone who 
> can
> reprogram the modules to the freqs he wants..
>
> PERSONALLY, I suggest getting two Midland Syntech IIs..one on 10 (an A 
> Range
> 70-05xxA model) and one for 6 (70-05xxC model)....that OR an XTR on 10 and
> the STII on 6 (XTR does 22 or 99 channel which is overkill on 10 FM; the
> STII does 320 channels!!!)..EASIER to program (Software is in public 
> domain)
> and there is a lot of neat things you can do...PLUS the NOISE BLANKER in 
> the
> Midlands runs rings around the Motorola's "Extender"....and I love the 
> built
> in optional crossband rptr in the STII...I have several that crossband to
> UHF....and some with VHF crossband (2w synthesized HTs in the crossband
> package...and its INSIDE the main radio...overall MUCH smaller than a
> Syntor)
>
>
> Still looking for the SS32s...found two TS32...but that's too big for your
> needs...I THINK I know where the Selectone encoders are...which would be a
> perfect fit in an HT...Let ya know Monday...my fuel pump went out today on
> my Blazer and I have to drop the gas tank to replace it..ARG there goes
> another $300 I wanted to spend on radios!
>
> Chris
> WB5ITT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sixclub-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:sixclub-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kd4e
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 7:37 PM
> To: World Wide Six Meter Club
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] Forum topics
>
> Thank the Good Lord that electrons do not transfer odors!
>
> If by Forum you mean this list then I have one that I have
> raised on another 6M forum ...
>
> As there any reason to prefer the Motorola Syntor 9000
> VHF Low Band 28-54 MHz,100 Watt Model #T99VX+006W or
> the Kenwood TK-6110-K2 35-50mhz?
>
> Questions:  Are their proprietary parts in the Motorola that
> given its age may fail and be unobtanium?  Is the software to
> reprogram the Motorola any more readily available than the
> Kenwood?  Has anyone successfully reprogrammed and tweaked
> the Kenwood for both 6 & 10M?
>
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