[SixClub] new general ticket.
David-Hook
[email protected]
Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:44:06 -0500
I agree, everyone processes information differently and there are people out
there who simpoly cannot process cw.As an example, my Grandmother was one of
those that processed info differently than others.We would ask her how she
was feeling and she would reply "When the rain stops, I'll go for a walk" In
her mind she was telling us she was fine.In our mind, we had to make the
connection, so who was processing the info differently, her or us?
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Carla Ackley [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
That Koch.exe G4FON program made it very easy. It was not hard work at all.
Carla
At 11:43 AM 2/20/2004, you wrote:
>Snip...We have a whole group of Techs that upgraded...
>
>Great for you and the other Techs who mastered the code....
>
>The excuse I can't do it, it's too hard or I'm not capable of learning
>the code is not valid here. What is the problem? If you can't hear
>that's one thing but if you just don't have the time, patience or
>intestinal fortitude to work for it then you are in a helpless way.
>
>I have never heard anyone say learning the code was a snap and it came
>without hard work.
>
>Rather or not it becomes part of the testing is debatable but I am
>convinced that anyone can learn cw and I hate to hear people complain
>'It's just too hard....
>
>Carla thanks for pointing out the Koch.exe program. As you know there
>are many ways to learn and hundreds of thousands of people have mastered
>the code.
>
>WA5UFH
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Carla Ackley
> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:54 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> >
> > Try the Koch.exe G4FON Morse Code program. Its free. Do a search for
>G4FON
> > or contact me and will send it to you.
> >
> > Use this program for 1 month twice daily and you will learn the code
> > easily. Works great. We have a whole group of Techs that upgraded
> > (including me) with that program.
> >
> > Carla
> >
> > At 07:27 AM 2/20/2004, you wrote:
> > >I have spent a lot of time reading the ARRL position and thinking
>through
> > my
> > >own situation as a no code Technician who is about to take the
>General
> > Class
> > >Test.
> > >
> > >I have taken the code test and failed and have laboriously tried to
> > prepare
> > >myself for the code exam, I am apparently one of the folks who just
>does
> > not
> > >seem to have the ability to "hear the music" of CW. I would very
>much
> > like
> > >to pass the code test but at this time after about 2 years of trying
>and
> > >preparation it does not seem to be attainable and I have spoken to
>many
> > >others.
> > >
> > >No doubt CW is important to the amatuer world but active, and skilled
> > >amatuers with attainable goals are far more important. I have met
>many
> > >former technicians in the last two years who were frustrated with
> > >"repeaterland" and who have walked away from the ham world, not out
>of
> > lack
> > >interest but because they cannot do what is considered amatuer radio,
>HF
> > >Long Distance real world, world wide communications. CW is a barrier
> > that
> > >is very hard for some of us jump. not because of IQ or willing ness,
> > some
> > >of us are born musicians and mathematicians others of us come into
>this
> > >world with a shovel and pick axe waiting for us.....now here is the
> > point,
> > >BPL and bandwith decimation by industry is he issue. More members
>and
> > more
> > >use of the bands is at least one of the tools to fight that war.. I
> > would
> > >be happy to take the General test with out code and fight my battle
>with
> > CW
> > >on my way to advance/extra....But BPL is a real problem, incursion by
>the
> > >cellular and cable industry is a true monster. We need more members
>who
> > can
> > >in turn pull their buddies into the amatuer world where they might
>just
> > get
> > >the chance to talk to someone from far, far away. CB'ers are not a
> > threat,
> > >if theuy have the time and desire to take the test and will play by
>the
> > >rules maybe they might really get something good out of amatuer
>radio, if
> > >not, then they will have to deal with the enforcement side of the FCC
>I
> > >hope.
> > >
> > >CLark B. Manor
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "David-Hook" <[email protected]>
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:55 AM
> > >Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I was actually thinking about that last night.By giving the
>"Novice"
> > more
> > >hf
> > > > priviledges, Nets may move towards the new "Novice" frequencies
>so
> > that
> > >the
> > > > newbie can get more involved with a lower class license,which is
> > great,but
> > > > this may create a lack of incentive to upgrade. The Novice now
>would
> > be
> > >able
> > > > to ragchew with club members and other hams on 2 meters and hf,
>and
> > may
> > >not
> > > > want or need more than that. However if the license classes stay
>the
> > way
> > > > they are now, we will continue to have more inactive hams as 10
>meter
> > >phone
> > > > is not as popular as 17-80 or even 2 meters unless the sunspot
>cycle
> > is at
> > > > its peak.2 meters and 440 might not be a bad deal for new
>licensees,
> > but
> > > > maybe the Novice should have an expiration date, for instance if
>no
> > >upgrade
> > > > occurs within 2 years, the license expires.Maybe this will
>motivate
> > clubs
> > >to
> > > > once again take more responsibility for Elmering the newbies and
> > >motivating
> > > > them to upgrade.Its a tough call.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David A. Pechon Sr. [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:39 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > People I hear what all yall are saying about this change, but this
>is
> > not
> > > > really where you
> > > > need to write about it. You need to write to the ARRL (who is
>looking
> > for
> > > > more people to join
> > > > them and pay dues) and the FCC who back the late 60's and early
>70's
> > drop
> > > > licenses from 10m (CB).
> > > > I can understand to a point about what they like to do and give
>the
> > newbie
> > >a
> > > > little more freedom, but
> > > > not all the HF bands. Maybe give the Tech 10meters and up. this
>would
> > give
> > > > them some HF band but in
> > > > order to get into the rest of the HF bands they must know allot
>more
> > then
> > > > just what is learn in the tech
> > > > license exam (or should I say what they remember to pass the test,
>my
> > >first
> > > > test you didn't have a book
> > > > with all the questions and answers in it). I feel that we must
>work
> > for
> > >what
> > > > we want and just giving it
> > > > will not make it better for all. But again we don't make the rules
>our
> > >great
> > > > FCC make the rules and if
> > > > they can make a buck off it they will do it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of David-Hook
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:21 PM
> > > > To: '[email protected]'
> > > > Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't think it will get thaaaaat bad folks.you still have to
>know
> > more
> > > > than just how to flip a switch :)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:20 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Randy, I see your point, and to a certain extent I would agree
>that
> > the
> > > > tests have been dumbed down a lot but (as the UK realised )
>falling
> > >numbers
> > > > of hams put the available bands at risk! Its not my intention to
>get
> > into
> > > > the code/no code debate but we definately need more hams and I
>think
> > that
> > > > the only way to achieve that is to make the entry point easier!
> > > > David
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Randy Tipton" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:06 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Before too long you will be able to buy your ticket at WalMarts
>:))
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of Clark B. Manor
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 9:46 AM
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My understanding was that the ARRL proposal was that all Techs
> > will
> > > > > become
> > > > > > General if I understand it correctly and that the only code
> > > > > requirments
> > > > > > will be for Advanced/Extra
> > > > > >
> > > > > > KG4JZU
> > > > > > Clark Manor
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Dennis Kaylor" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:57 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > i think you will find the ARRL will let Techs with the 5 WPM
> > > > > grandfather
> > > > > > > to general not the NoCode Techs
> > > > > > >
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