[SixClub] new general ticket.
Richard J. Fiero II
[email protected]
Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:04:58 -0600
I dont want you to have to stand alone so here goes,
5 WPM is EASY............. its a walk in the park,
if you guys were talking about 20 WPM maybe I would cut you some slack.
NOTHING in life thats worth having is easy to get. GET over it.
Joey
RICHARD J. FIERO II W5TFW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Tipton" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> Snip...We have a whole group of Techs that upgraded...
>
> Great for you and the other Techs who mastered the code....
>
> The excuse I can't do it, it's too hard or I'm not capable of learning
> the code is not valid here. What is the problem? If you can't hear
> that's one thing but if you just don't have the time, patience or
> intestinal fortitude to work for it then you are in a helpless way.
>
> I have never heard anyone say learning the code was a snap and it came
> without hard work.
>
> Rather or not it becomes part of the testing is debatable but I am
> convinced that anyone can learn cw and I hate to hear people complain
> 'It's just too hard....
>
> Carla thanks for pointing out the Koch.exe program. As you know there
> are many ways to learn and hundreds of thousands of people have mastered
> the code.
>
> WA5UFH
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Carla Ackley
> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:54 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> >
> > Try the Koch.exe G4FON Morse Code program. Its free. Do a search for
> G4FON
> > or contact me and will send it to you.
> >
> > Use this program for 1 month twice daily and you will learn the code
> > easily. Works great. We have a whole group of Techs that upgraded
> > (including me) with that program.
> >
> > Carla
> >
> > At 07:27 AM 2/20/2004, you wrote:
> > >I have spent a lot of time reading the ARRL position and thinking
> through
> > my
> > >own situation as a no code Technician who is about to take the
> General
> > Class
> > >Test.
> > >
> > >I have taken the code test and failed and have laboriously tried to
> > prepare
> > >myself for the code exam, I am apparently one of the folks who just
> does
> > not
> > >seem to have the ability to "hear the music" of CW. I would very
> much
> > like
> > >to pass the code test but at this time after about 2 years of trying
> and
> > >preparation it does not seem to be attainable and I have spoken to
> many
> > >others.
> > >
> > >No doubt CW is important to the amatuer world but active, and skilled
> > >amatuers with attainable goals are far more important. I have met
> many
> > >former technicians in the last two years who were frustrated with
> > >"repeaterland" and who have walked away from the ham world, not out
> of
> > lack
> > >interest but because they cannot do what is considered amatuer radio,
> HF
> > >Long Distance real world, world wide communications. CW is a barrier
> > that
> > >is very hard for some of us jump. not because of IQ or willing ness,
> > some
> > >of us are born musicians and mathematicians others of us come into
> this
> > >world with a shovel and pick axe waiting for us.....now here is the
> > point,
> > >BPL and bandwith decimation by industry is he issue. More members
> and
> > more
> > >use of the bands is at least one of the tools to fight that war.. I
> > would
> > >be happy to take the General test with out code and fight my battle
> with
> > CW
> > >on my way to advance/extra....But BPL is a real problem, incursion by
> the
> > >cellular and cable industry is a true monster. We need more members
> who
> > can
> > >in turn pull their buddies into the amatuer world where they might
> just
> > get
> > >the chance to talk to someone from far, far away. CB'ers are not a
> > threat,
> > >if theuy have the time and desire to take the test and will play by
> the
> > >rules maybe they might really get something good out of amatuer
> radio, if
> > >not, then they will have to deal with the enforcement side of the FCC
> I
> > >hope.
> > >
> > >CLark B. Manor
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "David-Hook" <[email protected]>
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:55 AM
> > >Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I was actually thinking about that last night.By giving the
> "Novice"
> > more
> > >hf
> > > > priviledges, Nets may move towards the new "Novice" frequencies
> so
> > that
> > >the
> > > > newbie can get more involved with a lower class license,which is
> > great,but
> > > > this may create a lack of incentive to upgrade. The Novice now
> would
> > be
> > >able
> > > > to ragchew with club members and other hams on 2 meters and hf,
> and
> > may
> > >not
> > > > want or need more than that. However if the license classes stay
> the
> > way
> > > > they are now, we will continue to have more inactive hams as 10
> meter
> > >phone
> > > > is not as popular as 17-80 or even 2 meters unless the sunspot
> cycle
> > is at
> > > > its peak.2 meters and 440 might not be a bad deal for new
> licensees,
> > but
> > > > maybe the Novice should have an expiration date, for instance if
> no
> > >upgrade
> > > > occurs within 2 years, the license expires.Maybe this will
> motivate
> > clubs
> > >to
> > > > once again take more responsibility for Elmering the newbies and
> > >motivating
> > > > them to upgrade.Its a tough call.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David A. Pechon Sr. [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:39 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > People I hear what all yall are saying about this change, but this
> is
> > not
> > > > really where you
> > > > need to write about it. You need to write to the ARRL (who is
> looking
> > for
> > > > more people to join
> > > > them and pay dues) and the FCC who back the late 60's and early
> 70's
> > drop
> > > > licenses from 10m (CB).
> > > > I can understand to a point about what they like to do and give
> the
> > newbie
> > >a
> > > > little more freedom, but
> > > > not all the HF bands. Maybe give the Tech 10meters and up. this
> would
> > give
> > > > them some HF band but in
> > > > order to get into the rest of the HF bands they must know allot
> more
> > then
> > > > just what is learn in the tech
> > > > license exam (or should I say what they remember to pass the test,
> my
> > >first
> > > > test you didn't have a book
> > > > with all the questions and answers in it). I feel that we must
> work
> > for
> > >what
> > > > we want and just giving it
> > > > will not make it better for all. But again we don't make the rules
> our
> > >great
> > > > FCC make the rules and if
> > > > they can make a buck off it they will do it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of David-Hook
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:21 PM
> > > > To: '[email protected]'
> > > > Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't think it will get thaaaaat bad folks.you still have to
> know
> > more
> > > > than just how to flip a switch :)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:20 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Randy, I see your point, and to a certain extent I would agree
> that
> > the
> > > > tests have been dumbed down a lot but (as the UK realised )
> falling
> > >numbers
> > > > of hams put the available bands at risk! Its not my intention to
> get
> > into
> > > > the code/no code debate but we definately need more hams and I
> think
> > that
> > > > the only way to achieve that is to make the entry point easier!
> > > > David
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Randy Tipton" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:06 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Before too long you will be able to buy your ticket at WalMarts
> :))
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of Clark B. Manor
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 9:46 AM
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My understanding was that the ARRL proposal was that all Techs
> > will
> > > > > become
> > > > > > General if I understand it correctly and that the only code
> > > > > requirments
> > > > > > will be for Advanced/Extra
> > > > > >
> > > > > > KG4JZU
> > > > > > Clark Manor
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Dennis Kaylor" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:57 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [SixClub] new general ticket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > i think you will find the ARRL will let Techs with the 5 WPM
> > > > > grandfather
> > > > > > > to general not the NoCode Techs
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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