[SixClub] Operating from a ship as to vacation..
larry fields,n6hpx/du1 manila
n6hpx_du3 at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 5 20:39:33 EDT 2004
Well beings how I travel by ship alot I could nevr
imagine being on a cruise ship. But I would love to
operate on 6 on ssb or FM. I did in fact use it twice
going up the coast line from california to washington.
My HT VX5R is my only 6 type unit.
I been traveling by ship for 27 1/2 years and it
has its pros an cons. The cons is getting permission.
The pros is getting it set up and for me I would use
it only at nite.
Where when at home I can always turn on/offr the
rig when I want to an hear the dx.
Larry Fields, n6hpx
--- Dennis Kaylor <k4oxg at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> thats fine larry
> but could you imagine sitting on a cruise ship with
> all the things to do
> there and here you sit with an FM 5 watt HT and a
> dipole waiting for the
> band to open
> he would be better off to just go and have fun on
> board ship and worry
> about 6 meters when he gets back
> chances of him getting a big enough band opening to
> get the MUF high
> enough to get to 52.525 so he could hear something
> then to be able to be
> heard with just 5 watts is really pushing it
>
>
> larry fields,n6hpx/du1 manila wrote:
>
> > Like its called the magic band its hard to predict
> it
> >as it opens for a few moments at times and then
> just
> >dissapears. As like this last time home it came for
> a
> >few moments and just as I made contact with BV2B/2
> it
> >faded and barely had time for 2 more Ja's only 3
> >worked that day.
> >
> > I remember it opened once 3 times in one day and
> >then faded. But one time I thought it was gonna
> open
> >as it got super strong but at the last moment it
> >dropped out. And it would have been nice as it was
> >Australia's beacon I was listening for.
> >
> > Larry Fields, n6hpx/du1
> > in San Diego
> >--- Dennis Kaylor <k4oxg at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>but what do you think are the odds of a great band
> >>opening hitting on
> >>the same week as your on vacation on that mountain
> >>top or on that cruise
> >>ship?
> >>
> >>Steve Katz wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I've stated many times regarding six meter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>antennas, "Good antennas are what
> >>
> >>
> >>>you need for the *other* 350 days a year, when
> the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>band's not open." I
> >>
> >>
> >>>still believe that. When the ionosphere's doing
> >>>
> >>>
> >>all the work, it doesn't
> >>
> >>
> >>>take much. -WB2WIK/6
> >>>
> >>>"There is no reason anyone would want a computer
> in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>their home." - Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>>Olson, Chairman & Founder, Digital Equipment
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Corporation (1977)
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: larry fields,n6hpx/du1 manila
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>[SMTP:n6hpx_du3 at yahoo.com]
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:19 AM
> >>>>To: World Wide Six Meter Club
> >>>>Subject: [BULK] - Re: [SixClub] Six meter
> antennas
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>and Philippines
> >>
> >>
> >>>>ops..
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi the G5RV I used a few years ago was the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>shorter
> >>
> >>
> >>>>one that is only 50 foot. I hadnt even planned
> on
> >>>>using it at the time on 6 but just happened to
> be
> >>>>listening on it and found the guys in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>conversation. I
> >>
> >>
> >>>>made contact with one and it followed right
> after
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>other.I only mentioned this since I noticed
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>someone
> >>
> >>
> >>>>mentioning using 40 meter dipoles on 6 meters.
> >>>> It was a surprise to me as I didnt think I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>would
> >>
> >>
> >>>>get that far North with the dipole. In a few
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>months I
> >>
> >>
> >>>>went out an bought my first 6 meter antenna for
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>this.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>And began by listen for beacons and once I heard
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>one
> >>
> >>
> >>>>began calling CQ on the band. Getting usually a
> >>>>response in a few minutes. In the many opening I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>was
> >>
> >>
> >>>>able to do I had maybe 50 to 60 Ja's.
> >>>> Following days I was working Ja,HL,VR,and BG
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>later
> >>
> >>
> >>>>followed by the VU2 and a JT. But this last year
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>only thing I seemed to be able to hear on the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>radio
> >>
> >>
> >>>>was increase in noise and then total drop outs.
> It
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>was
> >>
> >>
> >>>>like this for days and then one morning heard
> VR2
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>worked 3 stations.
> >>>> I also listen on 6m FM but there is no one to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>work
> >>
> >>
> >>>>on this as few even operate it. Its total
> silence
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>for
> >>
> >>
> >>>>hours.
> >>>> In the summer months there the bands drop
> down
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>low
> >>
> >>
> >>>>and in our fall months it starts to increase,
> like
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>for
> >>
> >>
> >>>>example 40 meters goes almost dead at times in
> May
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>80 meters is rare. Its totally dead at times.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73's from Larry Fields, n6hpx/du1
> >>>>--- K2UBG at att.net wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The alternates to a six meter dipole do work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>The
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>G5RV(102ft.)while it is technically a 20 meter
> >>>>>colinear actually has gain on 6 meters. All
> this
> >>>>>said, none of the above even come to the 3 ring
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>halo
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>I bought from someone through 6mt.com a few
> years
> >>>>>back. I would love to buy another to stack them
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>if
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>anyone knows where to get them now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>
> >>>>>73,
> >>>>>John/K2UBG
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-------------- Original message from Mark
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>Rockwood :
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>--------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hey David,
> >>>>>>I know you have had lots of suggestions but
> I'd
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>like
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>to ad one more. I went to Captiva Island last
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>year
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>august and knew I'd be there for the meteor
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>shower. I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>bought two 6m Hamsticks and the dipole bracket
>
> >>>>>>directly from Lakeside and clamped it to a
> pole
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>with a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>carpenters spring clamp. Worked OK. It was
> also
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>light
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>enough that I could stand on the beach at
> night
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>hold it in one hand and key the ht with the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>other.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Be
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>sure to tune the thing up in advance with a
> good
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>tuner
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>and mark the positions for reassembly.The end
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>elements
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>slide in and out and lock with set screws.
> >>>>>>Mark
> >>>>>>K1RGB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--- David-Hook wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Does anyone know of an inexpensive portable
> >>>>>>>directional 6 meter antenna?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Something maybe even handheld like the arrow
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>2&440
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>meter beams?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I built a buddipole that is acceptable, but
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>want
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>something that is more
> >>>>>>>directional for 6 and can also fit in a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>suitcase.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Maybe something like a buddipole type of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>beam(using
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>PVC and radio shack
> >>>>>>>aerials)for 6?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>How about a coil and using pieces of a tape
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>measure
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>to make the directors
> >>>>>>>and reflectors?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Appreciate any suggestions as I will be
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>vacationing
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>in Palm Springs
> >>>>>>>California August 13-23 and it is surrounded
> by
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>mountains and low clouds, so
> >>>>>>>should be a real challenge.....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>David
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
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