[BULK] - Re: [SixClub] Six meter antennas and Philippines ops ..
Dennis Kaylor
k4oxg at tampabay.rr.com
Tue Aug 3 21:31:45 EDT 2004
thats fine larry
but could you imagine sitting on a cruise ship with all the things to do
there and here you sit with an FM 5 watt HT and a dipole waiting for the
band to open
he would be better off to just go and have fun on board ship and worry
about 6 meters when he gets back
chances of him getting a big enough band opening to get the MUF high
enough to get to 52.525 so he could hear something then to be able to be
heard with just 5 watts is really pushing it
larry fields,n6hpx/du1 manila wrote:
> Like its called the magic band its hard to predict it
>as it opens for a few moments at times and then just
>dissapears. As like this last time home it came for a
>few moments and just as I made contact with BV2B/2 it
>faded and barely had time for 2 more Ja's only 3
>worked that day.
>
> I remember it opened once 3 times in one day and
>then faded. But one time I thought it was gonna open
>as it got super strong but at the last moment it
>dropped out. And it would have been nice as it was
>Australia's beacon I was listening for.
>
> Larry Fields, n6hpx/du1
> in San Diego
>--- Dennis Kaylor <k4oxg at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>but what do you think are the odds of a great band
>>opening hitting on
>>the same week as your on vacation on that mountain
>>top or on that cruise
>>ship?
>>
>>Steve Katz wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've stated many times regarding six meter
>>>
>>>
>>antennas, "Good antennas are what
>>
>>
>>>you need for the *other* 350 days a year, when the
>>>
>>>
>>band's not open." I
>>
>>
>>>still believe that. When the ionosphere's doing
>>>
>>>
>>all the work, it doesn't
>>
>>
>>>take much. -WB2WIK/6
>>>
>>>"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in
>>>
>>>
>>their home." - Ken
>>
>>
>>>Olson, Chairman & Founder, Digital Equipment
>>>
>>>
>>Corporation (1977)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: larry fields,n6hpx/du1 manila
>>>>
>>>>
>>[SMTP:n6hpx_du3 at yahoo.com]
>>
>>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:19 AM
>>>>To: World Wide Six Meter Club
>>>>Subject: [BULK] - Re: [SixClub] Six meter antennas
>>>>
>>>>
>>and Philippines
>>
>>
>>>>ops..
>>>>
>>>> Hi the G5RV I used a few years ago was the
>>>>
>>>>
>>shorter
>>
>>
>>>>one that is only 50 foot. I hadnt even planned on
>>>>using it at the time on 6 but just happened to be
>>>>listening on it and found the guys in
>>>>
>>>>
>>conversation. I
>>
>>
>>>>made contact with one and it followed right after
>>>>
>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>other.I only mentioned this since I noticed
>>>>
>>>>
>>someone
>>
>>
>>>>mentioning using 40 meter dipoles on 6 meters.
>>>> It was a surprise to me as I didnt think I
>>>>
>>>>
>>would
>>
>>
>>>>get that far North with the dipole. In a few
>>>>
>>>>
>>months I
>>
>>
>>>>went out an bought my first 6 meter antenna for
>>>>
>>>>
>>this.
>>
>>
>>>>And began by listen for beacons and once I heard
>>>>
>>>>
>>one
>>
>>
>>>>began calling CQ on the band. Getting usually a
>>>>response in a few minutes. In the many opening I
>>>>
>>>>
>>was
>>
>>
>>>>able to do I had maybe 50 to 60 Ja's.
>>>> Following days I was working Ja,HL,VR,and BG
>>>>
>>>>
>>later
>>
>>
>>>>followed by the VU2 and a JT. But this last year
>>>>
>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>only thing I seemed to be able to hear on the
>>>>
>>>>
>>radio
>>
>>
>>>>was increase in noise and then total drop outs. It
>>>>
>>>>
>>was
>>
>>
>>>>like this for days and then one morning heard VR2
>>>>
>>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>>worked 3 stations.
>>>> I also listen on 6m FM but there is no one to
>>>>
>>>>
>>work
>>
>>
>>>>on this as few even operate it. Its total silence
>>>>
>>>>
>>for
>>
>>
>>>>hours.
>>>> In the summer months there the bands drop down
>>>>
>>>>
>>low
>>
>>
>>>>and in our fall months it starts to increase, like
>>>>
>>>>
>>for
>>
>>
>>>>example 40 meters goes almost dead at times in May
>>>>
>>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>>80 meters is rare. Its totally dead at times.
>>>>
>>>> 73's from Larry Fields, n6hpx/du1
>>>>--- K2UBG at att.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The alternates to a six meter dipole do work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>The
>>
>>
>>>>>G5RV(102ft.)while it is technically a 20 meter
>>>>>colinear actually has gain on 6 meters. All this
>>>>>said, none of the above even come to the 3 ring
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>halo
>>
>>
>>>>>I bought from someone through 6mt.com a few years
>>>>>back. I would love to buy another to stack them
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>if
>>
>>
>>>>>anyone knows where to get them now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>
>>>>>73,
>>>>>John/K2UBG
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-------------- Original message from Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>Rockwood :
>>
>>
>>>>>--------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey David,
>>>>>>I know you have had lots of suggestions but I'd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>like
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>to ad one more. I went to Captiva Island last
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>year
>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>august and knew I'd be there for the meteor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>shower. I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>bought two 6m Hamsticks and the dipole bracket
>>>>>>directly from Lakeside and clamped it to a pole
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>with a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>carpenters spring clamp. Worked OK. It was also
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>light
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>enough that I could stand on the beach at night
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>hold it in one hand and key the ht with the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>other.
>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>sure to tune the thing up in advance with a good
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>tuner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>and mark the positions for reassembly.The end
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>elements
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>slide in and out and lock with set screws.
>>>>>>Mark
>>>>>>K1RGB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- David-Hook wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does anyone know of an inexpensive portable
>>>>>>>directional 6 meter antenna?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Something maybe even handheld like the arrow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>2&440
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>meter beams?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I built a buddipole that is acceptable, but
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>want
>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>something that is more
>>>>>>>directional for 6 and can also fit in a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>suitcase.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Maybe something like a buddipole type of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>beam(using
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>PVC and radio shack
>>>>>>>aerials)for 6?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How about a coil and using pieces of a tape
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>measure
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to make the directors
>>>>>>>and reflectors?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Appreciate any suggestions as I will be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>vacationing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>in Palm Springs
>>>>>>>California August 13-23 and it is surrounded by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>mountains and low clouds, so
>>>>>>>should be a real challenge.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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